How All Species Are Related Grows More Precise, Complex [Evolution]

Wall Street Journal (subscription required) ^ | 13 June 2002 | Sharon Begley

[PatrickHenry]

Family resemblance can indeed be elusive, or we wouldn't have "check the mailman" jokes. Scientists who try to infer who's related to whom among all creatures past and present can therefore be forgiven for taking 150 years to figure out this one: slime molds, mushrooms and other fungi are more closely related to you, me and other animals than they are to plants.

[PatrickHenry]

I think this is a link to the Tree of Life Web Project mentioned in the article: HERE.

[PatrickHenry]

PING. [This ping list is for the evolution side of evolution threads, and sometimes for other science topics. FReepmail me to be added or dropped.]

[VadeRetro]

"It turns out we're really all fish," says Prof. Greene, a notion that makes an ape-like ancestor relatively appealing.

The usual suspects will be pelting Prof. Greene with nuts and feces ...

[PatrickHenry]

The usual suspects ...

"If you post it, they will come."

[js1138]

The usual suspects will probably find that the learned professor once read Hegel and is therefore a commie.

[PatrickHenry]

A very few links from the famous "list-o-links" (so the creationists don't get to start each new thread from ground zero).

15 Answers to Creationist Nonsense. From Scientific American
Arguments we think creationists should NOT use from Answers in Genesis.
300 Creationist Lies.

The foregoing is just a tiny sample. So that everyone will have access to the accumulated Creationism vs. Evolution threads which have previously appeared on FreeRepublic, plus links to hundreds of sites with a vast amount of information on this topic, here's Junior's massive work, available for all to review:
The Ultimate Creation vs. Evolution Resource [ver 21].

[muawiyah]

Speaking of Hegel, a buddy of mine who'd grown up and gone to school in the USSR was in session at U of Moscow when they gave him an assignment to do a bit of Hegelian analysis.

Not realizing that the "correct answer" was already contained in a Communist Party book in the library, he actually used Hegelian logic to analyze the problem.

His answer was, of course *****WRONG******

Those bad boys had him in the Red Army on the Chinese border in a week!

He served with several fellows from Soviet Central Asia who'd grown up down-wind from regular atom bomb tests. They died of radiation sickness while he was there.

Yes, the USSR was an EVIL EMPIRE, something to which it's victims can attest.

[js1138]

I have it on good authority that Harry Greene is Japanese.

Errors into Haiku
by
Harry Green

First snow, then silence.
This thousand dollar screen dies
so beautifully.

With searching comes loss
and the presence of absence:
"My Novel" not found.

The Tao that is seen
is not the true Tao, until
you bring fresh toner.

Chaos reigns within.
Reflect, repent, and reboot.
Order shall return.

Three things are certain:
death, taxes, and lost data.
Guess which has occurred

A file that big?
It might be very useful,
but now it is gone.

Windows NT crashed.
I am the Blue Screen of Death.
No one hears your screams

Errors have occurred.
We won't tell you where or why.
Lazy programmers.

Seeing my great fault
through darkening blue windows,
I begin again

The code was willing.
It considered your request,
but the chips were weak.

Printer not ready.
Could be a fatal error.
Have a pen handy?

Server's poor response
not quick enough for browser.
Timed out, plum blossom

Login incorrect.
Only perfect spellers may
enter this system.

This site has been moved.
We'd tell you where, but then we'd
have to delete you.

Wind catches lily
scatt'ring petals to the wind.
Segmentation fault.

ABORTED effort:
Close all that you have.
You ask way too much.

The Web site you seek
cannot be located but
endless others exist.

Stay the patient course.
Of little worth is your ire.
The network is down.

A crash reduces
your expensive computer
to a simple stone.

There is a chasm
of carbon and silicon
the software can't bridge.

Yesterday it worked.
Today it is not working.
Windows is like that.

To have no errors
would be life without meaning.
No struggle, no joy.

You step in the stream,
but the water has moved on.
This page is not here.

No keyboard present.
Hit F1 to continue.
Zen engineering?

Hal, open the file.
Hal, open the damn file, Hal,
open the, please Hal...

Out of memory.
We wish to hold the whole sky,
but we never will.

Having been erased,
the document you're seeking
must now be retyped

The ten thousand things.
How long do any persist?
Netscape, too, has gone

Rather than a beep
or a rude error message,
these words: "File not found

Serious error.
All shortcuts have disappeared.
Screen. Mind. Both are blank.

[VadeRetro]

With a computer like that, no wonder he thinks we're all fish!

[js1138]

Of course Harry Green the poet might not be Harry Greene the professor, but he's certainly a commie. ;^)

[VadeRetro]

Green, Greene! Gould, Gold! Close counts when you're outing commies.

[Genesis defender]

Nearly one hour after your thread post and it is only up to about ten posts? Gee, Pat, this crevo thread is tame.

I thought that among evolutionists circles there were some scientists ahwile ago that proposed the "tree of life" actually looked more like a shrubbery (insert Monty Python joke here).

[balrog666]

Belgian wheat beer tastes goooooood! </Saturday Night>

[PatrickHenry]

Nearly one hour after your thread post and it is only up to about ten posts? Gee, Pat, this crevo thread is tame.

Well, there's a lot of evo-phobia out there.

[Genesis defender]

So according to this professor, I'm growing some close relatives on old leftovers in my fridge? And I commit a kind of fratricide when I throw them out? That's deep.

[_Jim]

'Intelligent design' in my book relates more to the entire design of the universe down to the sub-atomic level (nearly) ad infinitum and it's respective rules, laws et cetra ... 'Intelligent design' of distinct species (including man) would be to place severe restrictions on matter and it's interaction at all levels, basicially, hamstringing nature to that of a large zoo with a limited number of well-inbred species ...

[Genesis defender]

I'll take your word for it.

I'd drink a good Czech beer if I had a choice.

[VadeRetro]

The merlot I had at dinnertime was up to expectations. (Gotta stay 'heart-healthy,' you know!)

[JusPasenThru]

You all are full of crap!

Actually, I have no opinion one way or the other, but I hate to see people bored out of their minds on a Saturday night.

[VadeRetro]

At my age, I have the Immodium on one shelf and the ExLax on the other. It's under control, sort of. More or less.