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Prosecution spent $270,000 on Westerfield case
San Diego Union Tribune ^ | 2/6/03 | San Diego Union Tribune

Posted on 02/06/2003 3:57:00 PM PST by Jaded

SAN DIEGO – The District Attorney's Office spent nearly $270,000 prosecuting David Westerfield, including thousands for DNA analysis and expert witnesses, it was announced today.

Westerfield was sentenced to die for the February 2002 killing of 7-year- old Danielle van Dam.

The former Sabre Springs resident and neighbor of the victim is now on death row at San Quentin.

According to figures the District Attorney's Office released, more than $35,000 was spent on experts for Westerfield's trial, and more than $146,000 on DNA analysis.

More than $62,000 was spent on a telephone survey and a jury questionnaire review.


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To: UCANSEE2
Are you saying the quotes from his testimony are falsified in the article?
1,061 posted on 07/07/2003 7:14:34 PM PDT by cinFLA
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To: CW_Conservative
The next day the Prosecution had the VP of the glove company say that the gloves shrunk down to 85%. The media and idiots everywhere, Rush Limbaugh among them, then whined that OJ faked the test and the gloves shrunk.

Of course the police replaced the real label with one that read X-Large .....

1,062 posted on 07/07/2003 7:25:31 PM PDT by cinFLA
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To: CW_Conservative

Dusek's Fable


Fable n. A foolish or improbable story, especially one told to deceive. A fabrication.



One of the items I found of interest before Closing Arguments was how Prosecutor Jeff Dusek was going to discredit the Forensic Entomology evidence that provided Westerfield an alibi, without smearing David Faulkner, who was called in by law enforcement and given unusual access to both the crime scene and the autopsy.
What I didn't know at the time was that like a modern day Al Capone, Dusek had bought 10 jurors. He did this by paying a jury consultant to write screening questions that would identify people with a psychological profile fitting a person who was certain to be traumatized by the porn and emotionally shaken by autopsy photos. Someone who believes the burden of proof is with the defendant, who they believe would testify, if not guilty.
This allowed Dusek to lie when he stated during his Closing Argument that he didn't know enough about Forensic Entomology to ask Faulkner enough questions. He even joked about calling Faulkner back to court in order to ask him more questions. Even after hearing Dusek's plea of ignorance regarding Faulkner, the jury still ask to hear Faulkner's testimony re-read during deliberations.




ALIBI - PART ONE

DAVID FAULKNER


FROM DUSEK'S CLOSING ARGUMENT AUG. 6, 2002



9382 - 9383


27 ...THE DEFENSE HAS RAISED AN ALIBI IN THIS CASE. I WASN'T

28 WITH HER WHEN SHE WAS KILLED, THEREFORE, THAT DOES BECOME A

1 POINT THAT WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT, THAT WE HAVE TO ESTABLISH IN

2 THIS CASE. WHEN WAS SHE KILLED?

3 AND I THINK WE START WITH THE OPENING STATEMENT,

4 PROMISES MADE OF HOW IMPORTANT OR HOW FORCEFUL THIS EVIDENCE WAS

5 GOING TO BE, HOW GOOD THIS ALIBI WAS. WHEN YOU HEARD OPENING

6 STATEMENTS, PROMISES MADE. "YOU'RE GOING TO BE CONVINCED BEYOND

7 ANY DOUBT THAT IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE, IMPOSSIBLE FOR DAVID

8 WESTERFIELD TO HAVE DUMPED DANIELLE VAN DAM IN THAT LOCATION.

9 THE EVIDENCE WILL SHOW BEYOND DOUBT THAT IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE FOR

10 HIM TO HAVE PLACED HER THERE. THEIR EVIDENCE." REFERRING TO

11 US. THAT'S HOW GOOD THE DEFENSE THOUGHT THE EVIDENCE WAS.

12 THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE OPERATING UPON.

13 DID IT MEASURE UP? HARDLY.





WHAT DUSEK "DIDN'T KNOW" WILL KILL WESTERFIELD



9383 - 9384


14 ...RELATING TO TIME OF DEATH, BASICALLY YOU WERE PRESENTED

15 WITH THREE TYPES OF WITNESSES IN THIS CASE...

23 ...START WITH THE ENTOMOLOGISTS, THE BUG GUYS...

24 ...THINK BACK TO DAVID FAULKNER,

25 THE FIRST WITNESS THE DEFENSE CALLED...

26 CALLED TO THE SCENE BY LAW ENFORCEMENT, HE'S A LOCAL GUY...

28 ...WHEN WE HEARD DAVID FAULKNER TESTIFY AND LISTENED TO


1 WHAT HE HAD TO SAY, MAN, WE DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT BUG

2 EVIDENCE AT THAT TIME. DID WE? CERTAINLY WE DIDN'T KNOW ENOUGH

3 TO ASK HIM A WHOLE LOT OF QUESTIONS. WE DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING

4 ABOUT ENTERING THIRD STAGE, END STAGE MAGGOT WHATEVER. WE

5 DIDN'T KNOW BEGINNING. WE DIDN'T KNOW END. WE DIDN'T KNOW

6 ABOUT THIS.

7 ...WE

8 DIDN'T KNOW ALL THE PROBLEMS, ALL THE LOOP HOLES. CAN YOU

9 IMAGINE WHAT WE WOULD LEARN FROM FAULKNER NOW IF WE GO BACK AND

10 ASK HIM MORE QUESTIONS? I'M SURE WE WANT TO DO THAT, DON'T WE?

11 PERHAPS NOT...





DID THE FLIES KILL HER!



9386


1 WE'VE ALSO LEARNED THE TERM "POSTMORTEM INTERVAL,"

2 P. M. I....

6 THE DEFENSE TRIED TO MAKE IT THE TIME OF EGGS TO

7 THE TIME OF RECOVERY AND IT'S NOT....

8 ...IT'S THE ENTIRE TIME, THE

9 POSTMORTEM INTERVAL, FROM TIME OF DEATH TO TIME OF RECOVERY. WE

10 CAN USE THE BUGS TO TRY TO HELP FILL IN SOME OF THAT BUT IT

11 DOESN'T TELL US ALL OF IT. BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHEN THE FLIES

12 GOT ON THERE...

13 ...WERE THERE ANY FLIES AROUND? DID THEY KILL HER?...


17 WE'VE LEARNED SOME OTHER THINGS REGARDING

18 ENTOMOLOGY. THESE FLIES IN A NORMAL SITUATION, TYPICAL

19 SITUATION WILL GO TO THE NATURAL OPENINGS; EYES, EARS NOSE AND

20 THROAT. ANY NORMAL CASE THAT'S WHERE THEY GO AND SET UP HOME,

21 LAY THEIR EGGS....





"COOKING THE BOOKS"



9386 - 9387


26 WE'VE ALSO LEARNED FROM DR. GOFF AND DR. HALL SOME OF THE

27 MISTAKES THAT CAN BE MADE, PERHAPS EVEN COOKING THE BOOKS,

28 MAKING SURE YOU GET THE RESULTS YOU WANT....


2 ...ONE THING YOU CAN DO IS YOU DON'T MEASURE THOSE LITTLE

3 LARVAE GUYS. YOU DON'T DETERMINE IF THEY'RE BEGINNING OR END

4 STAGE OR THE END OF ANY OF THOSE STAGES. WE DON'T KNOW IF DAVID

5 FAULKNER DID THAT. WE KNOW HE COLLECTED THEM....

7 ...YOU MIGHT WONDER WHETHER OR NOT DAVID

8 FAULKNER EVEN MEASURED 'EM, AND THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE...

11 BEGINNING STAGE, THIS IS HOW LONG IT WOULD TAKE, THE END STAGE,

12 THIS IS HOW LONG IT WOULD TAKE, AND YOU HAVE TO KNOW THEIR SIZE

13 AND PUT 'EM ON THE SCALE.





DUSEK, "WE DIDN'T HEAR ABOUT THIS FROM FAULKNER."



9387 - 9388


14 WE KNOW THERE ARE WAYS TO SHRINK THIS TIME PERIOD.

1 ...USE THE WRONG TEMPERATURE GAUGE,

2 TEMPERATURE STUDIES.

3 WE'VE GOT APPARENTLY THREE PEOPLE WHO DO WORK IN

4 THIS FIELD; KAMAL, GREENBURG AND ANDERSON, AND THEY'VE EACH DONE

5 THEIR STUDIES UNDER VARYING TEMPERATURES....

10 ...WE'VE GOT DEVELOPMENTAL RATES FROM 61 DEGREES ALL THE

11 WAY UP TO LOOKS LIKE 84 DEGREES. THAT'S GOING TO MAKE A

12 DIFFERENCE. WE DIDN'T HEAR ABOUT THIS FROM FAULKNER....


9389


15 ...DAVID FAULKNER, WE JUST DON'T HAVE

16 ENOUGH INFORMATION ABOUT HIM. WE DIDN'T KNOW ENOUGH TO ASK HIM

17 QUESTIONS AT THAT TIME.





DUSEK WILL TELL YOU, EVEN IF THE EXPERTS WON'T



9392 - 9393


19 ...DAVID FAULKNER TOLD US THERE JUST WEREN'T AS MANY

20 FLIES OUT THERE THIS YEAR. HE HADN'T SEEN THE POPULATION THIS

21 LOW IN THE ENTIRE TIME HE'D BEEN CHASING THESE BUGS. THAT'S GOT

22 TO TELL YOU, EVEN IF THEY WON'T, THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET AS

23 MANY FLIES ON THE BODY, THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME TO START THE

24 PRODUCTION. IT HAS A BEARING. IT HAS A MEANING ...

26 THE WEATHER WAS UNUSUAL. IT WAS DRY, COOL AND HOT,

27 BOTH ENDS BUT IT WAS DRY. NO RAIN SINCE WHAT, 1950, CIVIL WAR

28 DAYS? GEE, BACK WHEN THEY WERE FINDING GOLD UP IN SUTTER'S

1 CREEK, BACK WHEN CALIFORNIA WAS BECOMING A STATE...





HEY MAN, THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE HEAD.



FROM DUSEK'S REBUTTAL ARGUMENT AUG. 7, 2002



9619


4 DAVID FAULKNER WE KNEW CERTAINLY ASKED VERY LITTLE

5 ABOUT HIS COMPUTATION. THERE WAS ARGUMENT MADE HERE ABOUT WHO

6 HAD TO GO GET MORE WITNESSES AND D. A. HAD TO DO THIS AND D. A.

7 HAD TO DO THAT.... DAVID FAULKNER

8 CERTAINLY WAS CALLED OUT BY LAW ENFORCEMENT, MADE HIS

9 COMPUTATIONS, MADE HIS NUMBERS, TESTIFIED HERE. WE HAVE VERY

10 LITTLE UNDERSTANDING OF HOW HE GOT TO HIS NUMBERS....

11 ... HE TOLD US

12 HEY, THAT'S JUST AN ESTIMATE. AND THAT'S A MINIMUM. I CAN'T

13 TELL YOU THAT'S WHEN THE BODY WAS THERE. HE SAID THAT'S WHEN THE

14 FLIES WERE THERE. HE ALSO TOLD US MAN, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE

15 IN THE HEAD. THEY WEREN'T. UNDER NORMAL CIRCUMSTANCES, THEY

16 WEREN'T IN THE HEAD. I THOUGHT MAYBE SHE WAS COVERED. MAYBE HE

17 DIDN'T CONSIDER THE MUMMIFICATION ASPECT OF IT.



NEXT: ALIBI - PART TWO, DR. HALL AND DR. GOFF

1,063 posted on 07/07/2003 11:54:30 PM PDT by CW_Conservative
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To: BARLF
Two strands of hair. One under her arm, one in her hand. The dark black hair was not DW's.

So, it seems like the Testimony of the SDLE Dorie Savage was another LIE designed to cover up the fact that the BLACK hair in her hand and on her necklace most likely belonged to the REAL KILLER, and Prosecution didn't want that to be a question the jury had in their mind. SO, Dorie kinda lied and got away with it, didn't she!

1,064 posted on 07/08/2003 1:59:30 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: BARLF
The blue paint I can't link to anything. One possibility would be to SCHOOL. If she used blue paint that day (or recently) at school, she could have blue paint there.

Just like the black hair found in her hand and on her necklace (which the media and LE's allowed to be suspected as being DW's, and really didn't retract when found not true, the .22 shell, the blood in the VD house, out in the yard, on the garage foundation,since that evidence might lead to someone other than DW, it was IGNORED.

1,065 posted on 07/08/2003 2:03:23 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: cinFLA
Are you saying the quotes from his testimony are falsified in the article?

I am saying the article only contains PART of his testimony.

Going by media articles to determine Westerfield's guilt is like the JURY listening ONLY TO THE PROSECUTION's SIDE and totally ignoring the DEFENSE.

OH, WAIT A MINUTE, THAT'S WHAT THEY DID.

I am saying that Conklin's testimony is just like many of the other witnesses. He wavers on stating anything absolutely for the record.

He is brought in claiming he heard a voice in the Motorhome, and thinks it was Danielle.

His statement, when asked, is that He THINKS he REMEMBERS hearing WESTERFIELD say something, which he can't hear very well due to the sound of the ENGINE RUNNING on his truck (no muffler?)

He says he quits digging, going over to DW's side (where he is digging too), and asks him did he say something. He then says DW says SOMETHING KINDA LIKE "I didn't say anything" or "it wasn't me".

KINDA, MAYBE,SOMETHING LIKE, I THINK, all just the kind of testimony EVERYONE in the UNITED STATES should just accept as PERFECT ABSOLUTE PROOF OF GUILT.

Remember, he has been out there, had people parked right next to him, then moves later on, gets stuck, has someone come by, then this (I tow vehicles out of the sand when I'm not too drunk) tow driver helps pull him out of the sand and Prosecution tried to imply that Danielle was in the MH the whole time. That this guy might have, maybe, heard a voice over the sound of the engine, when no one else, in perfect absolute quiet of the night, etc. ever heard anything.

Do you believe he heard Danielle's voice?

1,066 posted on 07/08/2003 2:23:26 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: All
Here's another mother that put her partying over her daughter's life.

Daughter abandoned in woods"

1,067 posted on 07/08/2003 3:19:03 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2
Where do you find any evidence that there were any parked near to him in the desert?

By Kristen Green
UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER

June 14, 2002



Full coverage: More stories, video, witness information and court documents
Day 6: Defendant said 'we' in telling of trip to desert, tape reveals
WITH VIDEO

Day 7 video


Tow truck operator Dan Conklin testifies he heard voice while helping Westerfield free his stuck motorhome in Glamis

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Angela Elkus, a woman who brought lunch to the van Dam home the Sunday after the girl disappeared, testifies the family dog was friendly.

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Beverly Asky, El Cajon resident, describes seeing the blinds drawn on the front window of Westerfield's motorhome at Silver Strand State Beach.

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Asky testifies about the arrival of a state park ranger at the the motorhome.

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Teresa Hastings of El Cajon testifies she saw Westerfield close the motorhome's door quickly.

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Judge Mudd tells jurors of the note he received from Padres brass concerning his comments from the bench.

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Donald Raymond, Silver Strand campground host, testifies he saw Westerfield's wallet during a payment disagreement.

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Prosecutors in David Westerfield's murder trial provided more evidence yesterday that Danielle van Dam may have been alive more than 24 hours after she was reported missing.

An Imperial County tow-truck driver testified he thought he heard someone talking as he helped dig Westerfield's motor home out of the desert sand Feb. 3, the day after the girl was kidnapped from her bedroom.

"I just heard what I thought was a voice, you know, and it would have been him because we were the only two people there," Daniel Conklin told the San Diego jury during the seventh day of trial.

Conklin said he walked 10 to 12 feet around the motor home to the spot where Westerfield was digging on the other side and asked Westerfield if he had said something.

"He just shook his head, and I don't remember the exact words, but it was 'I wasn't talking to you' or 'I didn't say anything,' " Conklin testified.

Neither the prosecution nor defense asked follow-up questions about whether the voice sounded like a girl's or that of someone in distress.

A day earlier, prosecutors played a taped police interview with Westerfield in which he used the term "we" while describing his roundabout driving route the weekend Danielle disappeared.

Those are the first glimpses at a possible prosecution theory that 7-year-old Danielle was alive when Westerfield drove hundreds of miles between Silver Strand State Beach in Coronado and the desert, and back to Silver Strand.

Last week, the county medical examiner testified that he couldn't pinpoint when the girl died – or the cause of her death – because her body was badly decomposed when it was discovered Feb. 27 in a rural area east of El Cajon.

Westerfield is accused of kidnapping and killing the girl, who lived two doors from his Sabre Springs home. If convicted, he could face the death penalty.

Conklin was the last witness before the trial recessed for the weekend. Earlier in the day, several witnesses gave testimony that contradicted parts of Westerfield's taped statement to police.

The 50-year-old design engineer told detectives he planned to go to the Imperial County desert Feb. 2, the morning Danielle's parents reported her missing, but went to the Silver Strand State Beach campground instead because he had forgotten his wallet.

But a volunteer at the campground testified that Westerfield told him he had just used an automated teller machine to get cash, and opened his wallet to show the worker several $20 bills.

Westerfield told police that without his wallet, he didn't have the money to pay for gas to drive to the desert. He decided to leave Silver Strand a few hours after he arrived, he said in police interviews, because the weather was bad and he wanted to go somewhere sunny.

But witnesses testified that Feb. 2, a Saturday, was a beautiful day at the beach, albeit a bit chilly. Westerfield left the motor home only briefly that day – once to talk with a ranger in training who returned $30 he had overpaid and later to challenge the refund, according to yesterday's testimony.

A few hours after Westerfield arrived, Brian Neill, in his second week of training to be a park ranger, knocked on the door of Westerfield's motor home to tell him he had paid $54 rather than $24.

Witnesses said that as Neill walked away, Westerfield came out, quickly closed the motor home's door behind him and insisted he hadn't overpaid. But Neill said he and his trainer, ranger Olen Golden, had opened the envelope Westerfield used to pay the nightly $12 fee and found a $50 bill and four $1 bills inside.

Eventually, Westerfield took the change and stood there until Neill left, Neill testified.

Later, about 4 or 5 p.m., Westerfield went to the ranger station to try to return the refund, said Donald Raymond, who was working as a Silver Strand volunteer.

Raymond testified that Westerfield became "agitated" and insisted he couldn't have paid with a $50 bill because he had just visited an ATM before entering the park. ATMs, he explained, only dispense $20s.

"He pulled out his wallet and showed me three or four $20 bills," Raymond said.

In his taped interview, Westerfield told police that when he left the Silver Strand on Saturday afternoon, he headed home to look for his wallet. He said that when he arrived in his neighborhood, he saw a crush of media vehicles and police cars, and a neighbor told him that a little girl was missing.

He said he quickly searched his house for Danielle, and when he was unable to locate his wallet or the missing girl, he left.

He told police he drove back to the rural Poway residence where he had parked his sport-utility vehicle and discovered his wallet. Then he headed for the desert, where he got stuck in the sand late that night. He said he was trying to get away from loud campers he had parked next to in the Glamis area of Imperial County.

The next morning, someone alerted tow-truck driver Conklin that a motor home was stuck in the sand. By the time Conklin arrived in the late morning, Westerfield's motor home was buried to its sides in sand.

Conklin testified that Westerfield seemed to be in a hurry to leave the area because he asked Conklin several times whether he could dig out the motor home with his truck.

It was while he was using a shovel to remove sand around the motor home's wheels that Conklin said he heard the voice.

Conklin testified that after he freed Westerfield's vehicle, Westerfield paid him $80 of the $150 price they had agreed to and asked for Conklin's address so he could mail him the rest.

Conklin said Westerfield appeared in such a rush to leave that he drove off before Conklin could return Westerfield's wooden levers, used to align the motor home.

Later, under cross-examination by Westerfield's attorney Steven Feldman, Conklin said Westerfield seemed "more put out than nervous." Westerfield helped Conklin dig out the vehicle and offered to get him something cold to drink, the truck driver said.

Conklin testified that it was unusual for a desert enthusiast to get stuck in the deep sand in that area, but told the jury that even experienced drivers can get stuck in the desert darkness.

Earlier, other witnesses from the Silver Strand campground said that when Westerfield arrived, most of the curtains in his motor home were closed, which caught the attention of other campers.

Joyce Rodgers, an El Cajon woman camping a few spaces away, said she was curious about why all the curtains except those covering the front windshield were pulled shut.

"Everybody we know that drives a motor home leaves it open so you have a better view of changing lanes," she said.
1,068 posted on 07/08/2003 7:53:31 AM PDT by cinFLA
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To: cinFLA
Where do you find any evidence that there were any parked near to him in the desert?

From the ACTUAL WRITTEN TESTIMONY of the TRIAL.

Not from the frickin newspaper, that's for sure.

It would seem you get all your information from the newspaper, and I am telling you they were totally biased.

All those 'helpful' citizens said that they NOTICED his curtains were closed. SURE. At a campground, and you notice whose windows are closed, whose are not, and remember the exact shape,size, model of the camper and the person driving. RIGHT.

Funny thing, there were 100's of people who reported they saw DW's Motorhome the weekend Danielle disappeared. They were helpful citizens too. Problem was, the reports were in a 100 different places, all at the same time. Obviously they were 'seeing' or 'remembering' something that wasn't really there.

Now, when someone took a VIDEO of the MH, the curtains were open.

If you didn't show the witnesses a picture of the Motorhome (like they did in court) , the witnesses who say they saw the curtains closed, and asked them what model it was, what color, without help from DUSEK, or someone else, they wouldn't be able to tell you.

Is is possible Westerfield had his curtains closed. CERTAINLY. Most likely when parked. If you have to handle a motorhome by yourself, you don't always do things like OPEN ALL THE DAMN CURTAINS, especially if you are TIRED, UPSET, SWEATY, etc.

The whole line of testimony about the CURTAINS being not open, the 'VOICE' they tow truck driver thinks he maybe possibly, but doesn't remember for sure ,heard..were all part of the Prosecution's efforts to sway the jury with innuendo.

Again, you list newspaper articles, and only the ones biased against DW as proof or support for your belief in his guilt.

Unless you listen to, or read, all the testimony, how can you come up with a proper determination?

1,069 posted on 07/08/2003 9:45:42 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2
Conklin..aka..Dirty Bob, IIRC, also testified that his dog was running all over and back by DW when he supposedly heard the voice....he is also the man who refused to talk to the defense investigators unless they paid him money for the tow...he also got the dates wrong when he first ran to the media.
1,070 posted on 07/08/2003 11:08:14 AM PDT by Rheo
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To: cinFLA
Joyce Rodgers, an El Cajon woman camping a few spaces away, said she was curious about why all the curtains except those covering the front windshield were pulled shut.

"Everybody we know that drives a motor home leaves it open so you have a better view of changing lanes," she said.

Joyce would certainly have found Mr. & me curious. We never opened the side window curtains in our back bedroom except when I was cleaning. The rear window drapes were opened when traveling so I could check the car in-tow,etc.

The driver of a MH uses side-view mirrors for passing, changing lanes,whatever. All other windows are not needed as far as the driver is concerned. 1,068 posted on 07/08/2003 9:53 AM CDT by cinFLA

1,071 posted on 07/08/2003 11:38:19 AM PDT by BARLF
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To: BARLF
But the problem remains, aside from UCan's "interview", that Dusek stated in an interview that there were marks that looked like someone was carrying something heavy. Dusek and Conklin hypothesized that David was looking for some place in the vast desert to bury Danielle. But wait, no that couldn't be possible, he would have to have his drapes drawn. All of them. He dumped her at Dehesa after he left the Cays. None of it makes sense or works.
1,072 posted on 07/08/2003 11:54:57 AM PDT by Jaded (But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you. Mat. 5:44)
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To: Jaded
You are right.....The hose,bleach, closed curtains,voices in the desert,going to the desert,driving all over in a MH, leaving chunks of wood used for levelers,on and on the useless crap used to convict a man that just might be innocent of the crime. Blood all over the vD house,fingerprints in that house that were never pursued because they were not DW's. Black hair on Danielle's body, not DW's so they must have been Danielle's. Even tho she was a dirty blond. Bugs & dogs that lie. Dectives that lie, even the chief of police found it necessary to lie.
1,073 posted on 07/08/2003 12:10:58 PM PDT by BARLF
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To: UCANSEE2
From today's North County Times:

Missing children found at mother's house

VISTA ---- Two children were found safe at their mother's home Sunday night after sheriff's deputies launched a massive search of a local park, authorities said.

The 7-year-old boy and his 5-year-old sister had been reported missing by their father, 30-year-old Ted Small, shortly before 7 p.m. at Buena Vista Park, sheriff's spokesman Chris Saunders said.

Deputies and 50 volunteers from the Sheriff's Search and Rescue Team scoured the area but found nothing. After further investigation, deputies learned that Small and his wife were separated, Saunders said. The investigation eventually led deputies to the wife's home.

Small was booked at the Vista Detention Facility on suspicion of being drunk at the time of his children's disappearance and on misdemeanor child endangerment charges because of his condition while caring for his 6-month-old son.

This is how "most" unsuitable parents are treated, why did the VD's get a "pass". They were both stoned and drunk...

1,074 posted on 07/08/2003 12:15:31 PM PDT by demsux
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To: UCANSEE2; BARLF
The blue paint I can't link to anything.

I remember reading about the dogs leading them to the house next door. The vacant one that was being PAINTED and redecorated. Don't remember that in testimony, just a story that was talked about at the time. Anyone remember more of those details?

1,075 posted on 07/08/2003 12:22:03 PM PDT by I. Ben Hurt (Just wanna know whodunit?)
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To: UCANSEE2
The "can't bark" story is just a lie, concocted by Damon and Brenda to cover for their other lies.)

Where did you find this?

1,076 posted on 07/08/2003 12:25:36 PM PDT by cinFLA
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To: BARLF; cinFLA
Here is the same trick used to dupe the jury, the media, the public, over and over.

an El Cajon woman camping a few spaces away, said she was curious about why all the curtains except those covering the front windshield were pulled shut.

"Everybody we know that drives a motor home leaves it open so you have a better view of changing lanes,

Now, she was camped (PARKED) a few spaces away from DW. SHE WAS PARKED, HE WAS PARKED, yet she gives testimony about what you do WHILE DRIVING. The JURY and PUBLIC (based on the conviction and many people's attitudes to this day) bought it. HOOK, LINE, and SINKER.

Witnesses testified DW parked AWAY from everyone else, because he had Danielle in the back raping her.(at least that is the implication of their testimony).

YET, here we have ANOTHER WITNESS actually stating they were within a FEW PARKING SPACES of him.

1,077 posted on 07/08/2003 12:39:44 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: demsux
Who'da thunk it. It's the priviledge of membership, do ya know what I mean.
1,078 posted on 07/08/2003 12:42:14 PM PDT by Jaded (But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you. Mat. 5:44)
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To: UCANSEE2
Remember, he has been out there, had people parked right next to him, then moves later on,

You still have not provided a source for this claim.

1,079 posted on 07/08/2003 12:44:36 PM PDT by cinFLA
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To: cinFLA
In the unredacted 911 tape, you can clearly hear the dog bark and the alarm beep. You can also hear people talking in the background and the children going outside. You could also hear Brenda's description of Danielle, brown hair, green eyes and 6 feet. She dismissed all of this recently on LKL. Amazing how she's aware of people's concerns on forums.

There was a second interview in September where the dog could also be heard to bark. Susan Wintersteen, quickly stepped up to say that was her dog. In someone else's house while they are being interviewed? Hmmmmp. How very kind of her to supply the dog.
1,080 posted on 07/08/2003 12:46:24 PM PDT by Jaded (But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you. Mat. 5:44)
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