[hgro]

I'm no southerner but this is horse hockey. Thousands and thousands died on both sides. The victory was for maintaining the union without slavery.

[theoriginalgriff]

The victory was the destruction of the ability of individual states govern themselves, free of centralized federal government intervention and intimidation. I'm sorry, y'all, but we all lost, black and white alike, at the end of the WAR BETWEEN THE STATES.