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U.S. Corrects 'Southern Bias' at Civil War Sites
Reuters via Lycos.com ^ | 12/22/2002 | Alan Elsner

Posted on 12/22/2002 7:56:45 AM PST by GeneD

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To: Servant of the Nine
It seems we must also finish defeating Marxism in our colleges history departments and in our burocrats.

The socialists have control of the schools, I don't know if it's possible to get it back and the damage has already been done to a generation of our youth.

61 posted on 12/22/2002 9:52:04 AM PST by SAMWolf
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To: Jimer
Of course it will. The Leftist fanatics are already planning on fracturing the GOP power base by painting the South as racist.
62 posted on 12/22/2002 9:58:08 AM PST by Reactionary
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To: GWELO
The civil war was not fought over slavery.

SSSSHhhhhhh....they're busy changing history here - now be quiet.

63 posted on 12/22/2002 10:01:25 AM PST by Tennessee_Bob
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To: vetvetdoug
When they had "soul food night" at the chow hall I'd always pass. I didn't realize until it was too late that I'd been raised on "soul food".
64 posted on 12/22/2002 10:24:51 AM PST by Terry Mross
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To: Reactionary
The Leftist fanatics are already planning on fracturing the GOP power base by painting the South as racist.

Haven't they been doing this for many moons?

65 posted on 12/22/2002 10:32:41 AM PST by Mark17
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To: IronJack
"The South was tired of having its soil "occupied" by forces alien and hostile to it.."

Why were alien?

Why were they hostile?
66 posted on 12/22/2002 11:29:10 AM PST by Kay Soze
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To: Kay Soze
Why were alien?
Why were they hostile?

For any of a number of reasons, some of them ideological, but as many economic, historical, and religious. The South had been settled in colonial times by a different religious culture than the North. The latter's agrarian culture diverged increasingly from the North's industrialized urban ethic. And the feudal aristocracy that pervaded the antebellum South established a caste system that chafed on the egalitarian sensibilities of the North.

The Southern system was supported on slavery simply out of economic necessity. But it is a gross oversimplification to attribute all differences between the two regions to slavery alone.

67 posted on 12/22/2002 11:36:46 AM PST by IronJack
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To: GeneD
I live close by Stones River battlefield; the bodies of both sides are buried in the same cemetery nearby; there is no Confederate bias here at all.

It was a bitter winter battle, blood was mixed above ground and below; won't anyone let it rest?

68 posted on 12/22/2002 11:44:12 AM PST by Old Professer
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To: IronJack
I agree that it would be an oversimplification to cite slavery as the single cause for the Civil War by "either side".

Just as inaccurate is to cite "states rights" as the cause.


If “states rights were such a huge issue they would be many more civil wars.

A much larger issue is human greed as feed by cheap labor.
69 posted on 12/22/2002 11:47:53 AM PST by Kay Soze
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To: Non-Sequitur
Partly correct. It's true that the overwhelming majority of the folks up North didn't give a damn about blacks or slavery. But defense of the institution of slavery was by far the single most important reason why the southern states began their rebellion.

At the beginning of Secession the contemporary slave-holdings were legal under law. As usual, the crux of contention was future holdings and changing attitudes made rancorous by economis and political maneuvering in D.C.

The war was fought over the "Territories", nothing more, nothing less; the North won, the Indians paid the price and the West was won.

70 posted on 12/22/2002 11:49:12 AM PST by Old Professer
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To: F.J. Mitchell
In what way?If they outlawed slavery in DC two years earlier and still staffed the White House domestic staff with slaves, the Executive branch of the time was either exempt from the law or as was the norm a centry later during Clinton' regime, it declared itself above the law, either equals exempt.

You can put an end to all this merely by providing some evidence that slaves were used to staff the White House. What do you base your claim on?

71 posted on 12/22/2002 11:50:26 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Kay Soze
Just as inaccurate is to cite "states rights" as the cause.

Which is why I didn't.

A much larger issue is human greed as feed by cheap labor.

Perhaps in the Marxist world where everything is defined in terms of class struggle. But not as a particularly relevant factor in the American Civil War.

72 posted on 12/22/2002 11:51:42 AM PST by IronJack
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To: Non-Sequitur
No, it wasn't. It was over Northern taxation and economic
explotation of the South.
73 posted on 12/22/2002 11:52:17 AM PST by Trickyguy
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To: GeneD
I saw a horrifying movie trailer yesterday: There's a Ted Turner movie about the Civil War coming.
74 posted on 12/22/2002 11:53:58 AM PST by firebrand
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To: IronJack
I beleive it matters in capitalist economy in which a free market must decide the value of labor.

75 posted on 12/22/2002 11:59:32 AM PST by Kay Soze
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To: FourPeas
Hmmmm, any guesses as to how many of these "prominent historians" are 1) northerners or 2) liberal academic-weenies or 3) northern, liberal academic-weenies??

I'm pretty sure the move for all of this started under Clintoon. The people behing this are probably holdovers.

76 posted on 12/22/2002 12:01:45 PM PST by Hacksaw
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To: mhking
FEW BLACKS VISIT

Around 1.8 million people visit Gettysburg every year. Latschar said a disproportionate number were men and the park attracts very few black visitors.

In 1998, he invited three prominent historians to examine the site. Their conclusion: that Gettysburg's interpretive programs had a "pervasive southern sympathy."

Do you see this claim as true? I've visited a half-dozen or so battlefields including Gettysburg and thought the presentations factual with no particular bias. I'm interested in your view.

77 posted on 12/22/2002 12:12:24 PM PST by Ligeia
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To: GeneD; stainlessbanner; GOPcapitalist; stand watie
"We want to change the perception so that Gettysburg becomes known internationally as the place of a 'new rebirth of freedom"' he said, quoting President Abraham Lincoln's "Gettysburg Address" made on Nov. 19, 1863, five months after the battle.

LOL. Should read "new rebirth of freedom = death of the Republic and birth of the Empire"

Give these d#mn leftist followers of Sandburg, Dubois, and McPherson another twenty years and the Confederacy will have never existed in the first place!! The Founders meant for the national government to take care of you from cradle to grave, no decisions to be made at the state level, and all your money that's printed unconstitutionally belongs to them. Yeah, that's it!! < /sarcasm>

78 posted on 12/22/2002 12:18:50 PM PST by billbears
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To: wardaddy
I doubt seriously we will see another South based war of seccession. We are much more likely to see a broad based truly Civil War revolving around primarily RKBA but it will have vague regional overtones. Immigration could play a part to some degree . . . .

A biblical scholar from Penn State believes there is a liberal/conservative schism in all religions worldwide that is breaking down along North/South lines with the conservatives in the south and the liberals in the north. He claims it's true of all major religions and affects all continents. One example is the Catholic and Christian churches in Africa and South America as opposed to Europe and northern North America.

79 posted on 12/22/2002 12:20:33 PM PST by Ligeia
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To: FourPeas
Hmmmm, any guesses as to how many of these "prominent historians" are 1) northerners or 2) liberal academic-weenies or 3) northern, liberal academic-weenies??

Actually, they're taking a Marxist line now, led by James McPherson.

Democratic politics revolves around demonizing the South, in order to pick off Republican-leaning, conservative constituencies in the Upper Midwest and New England, thus recreating the divisions of the Civil War. These historians are undertaking this new round of revisionism as a service to the Democratic Party.

And Latschar was appointed in 1993 by Bill Clinton, and is a Clintonoid spawn that should have been broomed out in five minutes by Mr. Bush. -- "But that would be partisaaan", the journopolemicists of the Media Left would wail, overlooking the fact that Clinton fired every one of the United States Attorneys as one of his very first acts in office. (Of course, one of them was looking pretty hard at a little S&L scandal called Madison Guaranty......)

This new movement represents a politicization of the National Park Service. Of course, the Clintons worked on politicizing all the great agencies one way or another (affirmative action is the best example, and creating internal bureaucracies that basically functioned as political organs within bureaus whose employees were all Civil Service). But his political agenda with respect to the factionalization of the Park Service was the propagation of the Marxist, vanguardist model of society and government.

80 posted on 12/22/2002 12:29:13 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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