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To: CCWoody
I'm still waiting for you to cite me a single verse which says that you have only half a kingdom of God.

Sorry, I don't see where I ever said that. Now you're putting words in my mouth (in my posts, actually) that I never said. I point out that Jesus released people from bondage and told them that the Kingdom of God had come to them, but it's obvious from the situation and context that He was bring one aspect of the Kingdom to the situation, that of releasing people from bondage. That is not the whole Kingdomn of God, and you know it.

Jesus quoted Isaiah when He said "The Spirit of the Lord God is upon Me, because He hath anointed Me to preach good tidings unto the meek; He hath sent Me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound. To proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord (at this point Jesus stopped reading in the synagogue, on the day He proclaimed His ministry) , and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn; To appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, to give unto them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they might be called trees of righteousness, the planting of the Lord, that he might be glorified."

The point here is that the Kingdom of God is more than exorcism. It is more than food or drink. It is righteousness, peace, and joy in the Holy Spirit. It is deliverance from sin, health to the body, provision in time of need, comfort for those who mourn, power over the Enemy, good news to those whom God has chosen. It is all these things and so much more, because it is !

You and others seize upon this passage (Matthew 12:28-29) and then try to say that Jesus said the entire Kingdom of God had come. It's obvious that Jesus was referring to the effect of the application of Kingdom principles, in this case the opening of the prison to them that are bound. That is not the whole Kingdom, that is only one aspect of it. Jesus said the Kingdom of God is within you (and me). If it is fully come, and entire and complete, then why are we still here in these sinful broken bodies? Obviously there is an inward beginning, and a day when it will be literally, fully complete, not only in us but in all the Earth! That day has not come yet. It's called the Second Coming of Jesus Christ. Until then, "we see in part, and we prophecy in part. When that which is perfect has come, that which is partial shall be done away".

2,551 posted on 12/16/2002 6:29:10 PM PST by nobdysfool
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To: CCWoody
For some strange reason, I lost a couple words in partof my post to you that were rather critical. I'll repeat the paragraph, with the missing words at the end, and maybe it will make more sense...

The point here is that the Kingdom of God is more than exorcism. It is more than food or drink. It is righteousness, peace, and joy in the Holy Spirit. It is deliverance from sin, health to the body, provision in time of need, comfort for those who mourn, power over the Enemy, good news to those whom God has chosen. It is all these things and so much more, because it is IN HIM!

2,553 posted on 12/16/2002 7:11:14 PM PST by nobdysfool
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To: nobdysfool; the_doc; RnMomof7; CCWoody; Jean Chauvin
That day has not come yet. It's called the Second Coming of Jesus Christ. Until then, "we see in part, and we prophecy in part. When that which is perfect has come, that which is partial shall be done away".

Respectfully, I am going to suppose that you have never considered the possibility that Paul was prophetically referring to the completion of The Written Revelation.

I am not trying to play "gotcha"... but I would ask you to admit, True or False:

You have never even CONSIDERED such a possibility (despite the congruent language of II Timothy 3), because your Teachers have NEVER presented you this idea... Right??

(At the very least, it certainly CANNOT refer to the "Millennial Kingdom" of the Pre-Mills and Post-Mills... with their "thousand year reign" of APOSTASY, HYPOCRISY, REBELLION, AND LIES... among the Tares of the Earth).

At the very least, "When that which is perfect has come" MUST refer to the Amillennial vision of a Final Judgment at the Second Coming, and a perfect New Heaven and a New Earth... no "thousand year reign" of hypocrisy and lies, but PERFECTION.

But if it DOES NOT refer thereto, then you must admit a possibility which you have never even considered: The Completed Revelation of Written Scripture is that which is PERFECT.

True, or False: This is the first time that you have even CONSIDERED this possibility.

Neh???

2,560 posted on 12/16/2002 11:30:31 PM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian
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To: nobdysfool
You and others seize upon this passage (Matthew 12:28-29) and then try to say that Jesus said the entire Kingdom of God had come. ~ nobdysfool Woody.
2,676 posted on 12/17/2002 12:51:00 PM PST by CCWoody
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