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Libertarian Party: National Guard Should Protect Medical Marijuana Users from DEA Thugs
Libertarian Party ^ | September 23, 2002 | George Getz

Posted on 09/23/2002 8:56:33 AM PDT by Commie Basher

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For release: September 23, 2002
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Libertarians urge California Gov. Gray Davis to protect medical marijuana patients from federal agents

SACRAMENTO, CA -- Should California Governor Gray Davis call out the National Guard to defend medical marijuana patients from federal agents? That's the question Libertarians will be asking today as thousands of medical marijuana advocates descend on the state Capitol in Sacramento to send the federal government a message.

"The National Guard is charged with defending lives and property when disaster strikes – and the federal raids on medical marijuana clinics have been a complete disaster," said Libertarian Party Political Director Ron Crickenberger, who is attending the rally.

"These DEA bullies with badges have ransacked clinics, brutalized helpless, dying people, and trampled state law. Now the only question is whether Davis will live up to his responsibilities as the state's chief law enforcement officer ­ or continue to kowtow to the federal government."

Agents from the federal Drug Enforcement Administration have raided dozens of marijuana clinics over the past few months, despite the fact that the possession, use, and cultivation of medical marijuana was legalized statewide with the passage of Proposition 215 in 1996. But now Californians are fighting back. Santa Cruz and other localities are making "medipot" available during public rallies at City Hall as protesters chant, "DEA, go away!"

Monday's Medical Cannabis Freedom Day rally, which kicks off at noon on the south steps of the Capitol, was created as a way for medical marijuana supporters statewide to demand an end to federal interference.

But will calling out the National Guard be necessary? Libertarians hope not.

"No such confrontation would be needed if Davis and Attorney General Bill Lockyer had the backbone to speak out more forcefully against this unwarranted federal intrusion," Crickenberger said. "Davis has asked the federal government to stop the raids. And last week, Lockyer sent a letter to U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft and DEA head Asa Hutchinson 'questioning the ethical basis' for the raids.

"But meekly asking the DEA to stop hasn't worked. Davis and Lockyer should publicly and unequivocally demand that the raids stop. They should remind Ashcroft and Hutchinson that their boss, President George Bush, pledged during the campaign to 'respect states' rights' on medical marijuana. And they should inform the federal government that any future harassment of medical marijuana patients will be treated as an assault under state law.

"If Davis lacks the courage to stand up to the federal bully when lives are at stake, he should have the decency to resign."

Other groups participating in the rally include the Marijuana Policy Project (MPP); the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws (NORML); Students for a Sensible Drug Policy; and the Drug Policy Alliance. Organizers are also demanding a federal pardon for Bryan Epis, a Libertarian Party member who faces 10 years in prison for cultivating medical marijuana.


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To: SteamshipTime
>>>You don't even know what you don't know.

Oh, okay.

But you have to realize, your convoluted rhetoric is no substitute for honest intellectual discourse. Such gibberish will get you nowhere. May be a refresher course, starting with a proper grade school education will help you handle the challenges of debating on FreeRepublic.

You libertarians never cease to entertain me. LMAO

161 posted on 09/23/2002 1:50:05 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: BlueLancer
Jeez, if the Libertarians want to fight about it so much, they should arm themselves and resist the Evil Government.

LOL

162 posted on 09/23/2002 1:50:26 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
No absurdity there. Roscoe swings and misses.
163 posted on 09/23/2002 1:50:30 PM PDT by MrLeRoy
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To: ThomasJefferson; Reagan Man
Wow now the person who says he(Thomas Jefferson) is not a Libertarian, becomes one.

Reagan, Thom is a flame thrower in his own mind, but what else should one expect from the Libertarians.

164 posted on 09/23/2002 1:52:04 PM PDT by Dane
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To: MrLeRoy
No absurdity there.

Then you produce the quote.

[[[crickets]]]

165 posted on 09/23/2002 1:52:21 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Reagan Man
Another fact, better then 99.5% of American voters, don't agree with the Liberatraian Party platform.

Big suprise for ya. Most 'little l' libertarians don't agree with the Libertarian Party platform. Mainly because the 'big L' libertarian types have as much relation to libertarian philosopy as NOW does to the viewpoint of most women, or the NAACP does to most black folks. Which is, not much.

166 posted on 09/23/2002 1:52:32 PM PDT by dark_lord
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To: Roscoe
They'll(Libertarians) post an unsupported absurdity, then demand that you prove that it isn't so. It's their SOP.

Your above italicized paragarah should be included as a certainty in life.

167 posted on 09/23/2002 1:54:57 PM PDT by Dane
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To: Dane
Legalized pot and open borders for cheap labor should lower the price per joint. And isn't that the most important thing?
168 posted on 09/23/2002 1:55:17 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Dead Corpse
>>>You are doing his name no service with your tripe.

Once you attack the screen name, you've lost the argument.

Congratulations. You lose.

169 posted on 09/23/2002 1:55:18 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: dark_lord
Mainly because the 'big L' libertarian types have as much relation to libertarian philosopy as NOW does to the viewpoint of most women, or the NAACP does to most black folks. Which is, not much.

For example?

170 posted on 09/23/2002 1:56:31 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Dane
.... Thom is a flame thrower in his own mind, but what else should one expect from the Libertarians.

That sums it up, Dane. TJ is NO TJ!

171 posted on 09/23/2002 1:58:01 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: Reagan Man
Honest intellectual discourse?

You have not provided a logical deconstruction of a single argument, nor advanced a single premise in support of your conclusions this entire thread. The closest you came was the assertion that libertarianism was a failure because so few people vote for it. (An ad populum fallacy, BTW.)

172 posted on 09/23/2002 1:58:36 PM PDT by SteamshipTime
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To: Roscoe
Legalized pot and open borders for cheap labor should lower the price per joint. And isn't that the most important thing?

Yep, and one must not leave out the hallucenogenic influenced romanticizing of the Founding Fathers that the Libertarians do with relish.

173 posted on 09/23/2002 1:59:48 PM PDT by Dane
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To: Roscoe
Fine. You laziness is noted.

Here.

"Every nation has a right to govern itself internally under what forms it pleases, and to change these forms at its own will; and externally to transact business with other nations through whatever organ it chooses, whether that be a King, Convention, Assembly, Committee, President, or whatever it be. The only thing essential is, the will of the nation." --Thomas Jefferson

You used this argument in the context that none of our Rights are anything more than government whims.

You also posted this little tid-bit:
Nations have rights, societies have rights, anarchists have noise.

Once again advocating group rights, instead of individual Rights.

In post #170, you throw out this gem:
"It is agreed by those who have seriously considered the subject, that no individual has, of natural right, a separate property in an acre of land, for instance. By an universal law, indeed, whatever, whether fixed or movable, belongs to all men equally and in common, is the property for the moment of him who occupies it, but when he relinquishes the occupation, the property goes with it. Stable ownership is the gift of social law, and is given late in the progress of society." --Thomas Jefferson

Your selective usage of qoutes would've seen you called out to the "feild of honor" in thier time for such slander. It'll avail you not much more here either.

174 posted on 09/23/2002 2:00:00 PM PDT by Dead Corpse
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To: Dane
Yeah. Those stupid dead white guys didn't even have the sense to criminalize opium, morphine or home brew. They shot the King's soldiers dead over an effective tax rate of about ten percent of income.

Not your type at all.

175 posted on 09/23/2002 2:03:02 PM PDT by SteamshipTime
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To: dark_lord
Another fact, better then 99.5% of American voters, don't agree with the Liberatraian Party platform.

>>>Big suprise for ya.

Not at all.

>>>Most 'little l' libertarians don't agree with the Libertarian Party platform.

Here we go again!

Then why call yourselves "libertarians"?

Come up with a new moniker and end all the confusion.

176 posted on 09/23/2002 2:05:55 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: Roscoe
I didn't challenge "unsupported" but "absurdity". Do try to keep up.
177 posted on 09/23/2002 2:06:59 PM PDT by MrLeRoy
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To: SteamshipTime
Yeah. Those stupid dead white guys didn't even have the sense to criminalize opium, morphine or home brew. They shot the King's soldiers dead over an effective tax rate of about ten percent of income.

Yep, and they didn't have to deal with the scourge of the "60's" Liberal/Libertarian pro-drug culture, either.

178 posted on 09/23/2002 2:07:11 PM PDT by Dane
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To: Dead Corpse
"Every nation has a right to govern itself internally under what forms it pleases, and to change these forms at its own will; and externally to transact business with other nations through whatever organ it chooses, whether that be a King, Convention, Assembly, Committee, President, or whatever it be. The only thing essential is, the will of the nation." --Thomas Jefferson

Good quote. Our Constitution restricts federal infringement of the right to keep and bear arms.

Another crash and burn, Dead Corpse.

179 posted on 09/23/2002 2:07:28 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: SteamshipTime
>>>Honest intellectual discourse?

That's right.

Btw, you can't dismiss the truth and in this case, you can't dismiss the failure of the the Libertarian Party platform and the libertarian philosophy in general. The libertarian agenda is of no consequence in modern American politics. Just saying its relevent, while having absolutely no proof to back up such an outlandish remark, is wild eyed rhetoric at best.

180 posted on 09/23/2002 2:24:06 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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