DAY 10 OF VAN DAM MURDER TRIAL...VERDICT WATCH!!!

Union Trib ^ | August 21, 2002 | San Diego Staff

[FresnoDA]

Discovery hearing set as jurors deliberate for ninth day


SIGNONSANDIEGO

August 20, 2002

A request by the prosecution in the David Westerfield kidnap-murder trial to obtain more evidence or information, originally scheduled for a 10:30 a.m. hearing, has been vacated.

Word of the hearing's cancellation was relayed to media representatives shortly after 10 a.m. today.

The subject of the discovery motion filed by lead prosecutor Jeff Dusek was not disclosed. No reason was given for the hearing's cancellation.

Today is the ninth day of deliberation by jurors. Today's deliberating session began at 9:07 a.m., according to a public information officer.

Westerfield, 50, is accused of the kidnap and murder of 7-year-old Danielle van Dam, who disappeared from her bedroom in her family's Sabre Springs home on Feb. 2.

 

[FresnoDA]

BREAKING NEWS FLASH

DUH-KNEES CRACKS UNDER

INTENSE HUMP DETECTOR ANALYSIS

New Revelations Could Break Westerfield Case.....

Wide Open....

(Posted with permission of Registered...FDA)

[FresnoDA]

PING..) ) )

[FresnoDA]

Still out Jurors in the capital murder trial of David Westerfield, accused of killing a 7-year-old girl, finished a ninth day of deliberations Tuesday without reaching a verdict

[xJones]

Today is the tenth day of deliberations? Is that some kind of a record for a jury? This case has certainly allowed a wide opening for "reasonable doubt".

[shezza]

Mornin', all. Here's to another fine day of deliberation, discourse, disses, and diatribes.

[small_l_libertarian]

Good morning, everyone.

Well, at this point, I would think that we're most likely looking at a hung jury. Sounds like there are some holdouts (could be on either side, or both) that just won't give in.

[Guenevere]

This is not news for those of us following this case, but the longer the jury is out, the more folks are coming aboard who are starting to question his quilt.

JUST yesterday, one of the regulars on ctv, and two guests, seemed surprised, as they replayed the court trial, to realize the laundry girl DID NOT state he appeared in his underwear.

They finally realized she said thin material....like jogging material.

But, of course, the whole media has reported it as underwear!

I also noticed on another segment, they finally wised up to Denise seeking signals from Dusek as she testified.

Having nothing else to do but replay court testimony as these moderators wait.....they are finally seeing nuggets of testimony they supposedly missed the firt time.

Nuggets that point to his not being guilty..........perhaps framed!

They were so quick to run to judgement, it must be hard to get the words out of their collective mouths, when they realize there must be more here than meets the eye........

I have found all this most interesting......and continue to hope/pray this man, DW, will be restored to freedom.

[Space Wrangler]

Even if he's acquitted, which I seriously doubt, his life is already ruined. His lawyers took everything he owns, plus his patents, which had to have been a major source of his income. The only way his life will ever be restored is if what REALLY happened to Danielle is found out and brought out in a public forum. IF DW is somehow miraculously freed, his life will still be only a shadow of his it's former self. He'll be picking up the pieces for years to come.

[Guenevere]

Oh, I agree!!

It's criminal-(& that's putting it mildly)- what they've done to this man.

What I'm hoping for is a revelation somehow, that the parents, who have manipulated & controlled this from the gitgo, will be revealed for what they really are....(& I think there's a lot more there than we know)

I hope evidence surfaces or someone breaks down, and completely exonerates this guy.

Probably ONLY that would restore some kind of life to him.........

..although knowing the complete job the media has had in destroying his reputation, there are those who will always associate him with this crime.

I totally believe he did not do this, and I stand by it!!

How can one not realize the impact this has had on his daily existence, his children, his friends & reputation.

[Guenevere]

Oh, you're a fellow Tennesseean :)
....I'm from Chattanooga too :)
That's a grand flag on your profile page :)

[RnMomof7]

Having nothing else to do but replay court testimony as these moderators wait.....they are finally seeing nuggets of testimony they supposedly missed the firt time.

I too noticed that ...Lets hope the jury did not miss those nugets

[spectre]

Good morning!

Gwennie, I agree with everything you said this morning.

But if DW walks out of there a Free man, there is no doubt in my mind that he will go to his grave looking for Danielle's killer. It will be his mission in life.

Back to CTV and Nancy Grace. Last evening, she was on Larry King, sprewing forth her venom against Westerfield. Nostrils flaring and glaring at Mark Geragos.

Larry King asked the panel if they thought the Jury was WATCHING TV and they all said they really shouldn't be...but hey, who can know for sure, and implied that "it's sort of the nature of the beast" to be curious about these type of shows.

OK..now we KNOW for sure the Jury is being treated to media bias. THAT is what scares me, guys.

PS. Did you all KNOW that on the morning Danielle disappeared, Damon was sitting on the street cornor "just Bawling his eyes out"?! "Somebody took my Little Girl.." he wailed.

It just keeps getting deeper and deeper.

sw

[Mark was here]

I totally believe he did not do this, and I stand by it!!

I agree. I do not believe he did it either. His life will never be the same.. SAD

[pinz-n-needlez]

Did anyone catch Paula Zahn's show on CNN this morning? (Yes, I know, but the quilting show wasn't on hgtv yet. lol)

She was interviewing Mark Klaas. He said he talked to Brenda in the last couple of days. "And all of the evidence points to VanDam. It's clear VanDam did it."

Hee hee, he meant to say Westerfield, but slipped. What was fascinating to me was that Paula never corrected him! So, we have evidence that CNN is capable of reporting the truth, but only inadvertently.

LKL had a lynch mob on last night. I gave up counting how many court recitations of Nasty Grace were just flat out wrong. Sure hope today is acquital day.

[alisasny]

WOW that is some flub by Klass. I hope someone questions him on that!

[MizSterious]

"But, of course, the whole media has reported it as underwear!"

Not just the media. Over on the Ministry of Truth other threads, Kim has continually made reference to DW appearing at the cleaners in his underwear. We had entire threads full of her insisting it was underwear, even after we produced the entire relevant testimony. I mean, she browbeat us! Produced reams of datadumps on underwear! (But conveniently ignored that testimony we produced.) In the end, some messages got pulled, some people got "warned" by her nannies the moderators, but like the bleach and the porn, she was loathe to let go of this particular myth. The search for truth becomes more difficult when one tyrant rules the threads, but finally it's starting to come out, in spite of the jackals.

...and she has the nerve to wonder why people say she's the Queen of Disinformation...

[spectre]

Mark was on Larry King last night too.

What is it about this guy I can't stand?

He made that slip? Ha, ha..so sorry I missed it.

Judge Mudd really screwed up (I can say "screwed up" on the backroom), when he didn't Sequester the Jury. Now, the Jury knows the propoganda out there, and will they feel comfortable holding out for an acquital? It's tough call.

sw

[Space Wrangler]

I think there is alot of similarity between Richard Jewell, the supposed Olympic bomber, and DW. Jewell was railroaded and EVERYONE was CONVINCED that he was the bomber by the media. Now what is happening to DW is several magnitudes worse, because he is being prosecuted, and even if acquitted, there will be that cloud hanging over him for the rest of his days. I think there is a very high probability that much of the MH evidence was planted. The statement that the cop gave for the reason they became interested in DW becuase his hose was unrolled was just ridiculous. They were steered towards DW early on, and for what reason I have no idea, decided that HE was their guy, and they'd do whatever it took to make the case stick. To me, there are so many unanswered questions in this case. How did he get into the house without leaving any evidence? How did he transport her? Why was her scent never found in the MH, or his house? Why was so much made of non-matching fiber evidence? The list goes on and on. I seriously hope for an acquittal, but there will be those that think that just because he's on trial, that he must be guilty, and factor that in with the flawed evidence and hold out for a conviction.

I do love East TN!! I live just north of Chattanooga within sight of the Cherokee Nat'l Forest. I'm in Chattanooga almost every weekend though because I keep my boat on Harrison Bay. Here's to my fellow 'Noogan'!!

[alisasny]

Regarding Mark Klass, his heart is in the right place however he is very biased as the same crime was what killed his own child.

I do appreciate the work he has done in regards to truth in sentancing and making sure these freaks stay locked up.

I am suprised he never heard of this Avila guy prior to that crime. Does he only come out after a death?

[MizSterious]

Will today be the DAY? The media is having conniption fits about the length of the deliberations, Nancy Grace is dissembling right before our very eyes, and over at the Ministry of Truth, nerves are beginning to fray. Bulldog108, you just might end up being our winner!

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Update on the informal verdict pool: What's your best guess for when the verdict will come in? (actual verdict prediction optional and not recorded)

There is no "prize," but the winner(s) get to be called "winners" and have the right to say "I told you so;" we're still negotiating about "neener neener neeners."

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