Thanks for the memories, but it's time for Christians to unite not fight

self | 3/2/2015 | two134711

[two134711]

Thank you Free Republic for allowing me to post and vent on this site for over ten years. I am a young, married conservative woman who is trying to raise her daughter to be a fine, upstanding lady, an educated woman and a worthy wife to a decent man. Despite the stupidity of my generation (I am on the cusp of GenX and GenY) there is hope. Many young people are more prolife than ever. And at last, many others are beginning to open their eyes to the lies of socialism.

However recent events on this site like witnessing the discord between fellow believers of Christ and how the Religious moderators have given carte blanche to those who wish to spread hate is not something I want to be part of.

I received this message from the Religion Moderator regarding Key words received 03/02/2015 8:45:19 PM PST

“DO NOT use keywords to snipe at other posters or beliefs. RM”

I certainly did not post key words that sniped at anyone; they were terms such as "enough already,” “Christianity,” “unity” and "peace." Now, yes, the comments I made were invectives thrown at posters. I don't deny that; but they deserved every word directed at them and more. Outside of Caucus threads the religious forum is based on sniping at posters and insulting other's beliefs. Mostly it’s a few alleged “Evangelicals” damning those Papists, pedophiles, pagans, cracker-eaters, cannibals and Mary-worshipping heretics to Hell if they don't convert to the Western Branch of American Reform Presbylutheranism or the Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1879. Then a very small contingent of Catholics tries to fight back.

These are the kind of comments are allowed on the religious forums without any moderation.

"I believe that Catholicism has caused more people to go to hell then [sic] Islam."
84 posted on 2/23/2015, 2:36:42 PM by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)

AND

**Have you accepted the Catholic Church** "I have accepted Jesus. Not some abomination created by man."
98 posted on 2/23/2015, 2:46:17 PM by Gamecock (Joel Osteen is a minister of the Gospel like Captain Crunch is a Naval line officer.)

I have no skin in this game other than to realize that Christians (and Jews) are not each other’s enemies. There is a much more diabolical force in this world that should be fought. Anti-theists, Islamists, secular amoralists, etc., they're nothing. But, hey, keep going after Catholics and Mormons because they're the ones ruining the world today!

I said those words because it was the truth, (a truth that many others see but do not mention; they merely avoid the conflicts). If the anti-Catholic delusional bigots have a problem with the truth, then a pox on their houses.

I have posted on and off this site for over ten years. Every time I come back here I think to myself, “Wow, FR is one of the only sites telling it like it is when it comes to politics!” But then the OCD religious posters take control over and over again. It’s not just the religious forums, but they’re the worst. In the past the moderation was far more even-handed. Now it’s out of control. Please use more judiciousness in moderating them in the future.

You are losing members left and right and your fundraisers take months to complete. I am aware that the owner of this site, Mr. Robinson, is a Catholic, and I’m sure it breaks his heart to see such infighting amongst fellow Christians. I hope his health betters and that he can continue to fight the goof fight.

Nevertheless, FR's days as a premium conservative site are over. There a quite a few decent folks around here like Mrs. Don-0, xzins, Morgana, miss marmelstein, wardaddy, that fellow named something like yefrugeturbrumuy, and lots of others. There are many good folks with diverse opinions and no malice in their hearts.

But some others seem possessed by other-world forces. Mostly they're old people scared of death, wanting to make sure they get in with God before the end, desperate to hold on to every penny they've ever come across, willing to kvetch about the future and frequently mentioning how glad they'll be when they're dead and won't have to deal with this world, while their children and grandchildren will. Or worse, they actively wish for the world to end today or soon. Sorry, I'm young enough to have a smidgen of hope despite the moral disaster this world is in.

The Apple squabbles, the griping about TV and art, heck even the "my candidate is better than your candidate" bloodletting is nothing compared to the nutters that run rampant on the religion forum.

So Religious moderator, if you thought my key words were examples of “sniping,” then I suppose this post was outright bashing. Every time I come to this site I get angry. Anger opens up the heart to dark forces; it’s best not to be part of that.

Got to go. May peace come to this once wonderful site and make it a place of harmony for future posters.

[onyx]

What would be an acceptable solution for ALL Roman Catholics on Free Republic Religion Forum so that the departed RCs would return to posting and donate again to FR’s upkeep?
R2z


Now you know I abandoned this thread, (with great flourish, I might add) so make a storyteller out of me! LOL.

Never mind the departed RC's or departed, (but not in the "passed-on" or "passed-away" sense) others. I spend hours on our FReepathon threads, re-posting Jim's message to ALL.

If just 5% of our daily readers and participants would donate $10 or $20 today,
this FReepathon would be over by tomorrow.

If you love using FR and think it's a worthwhile endeavor, please click this donate link
and help us keep it going strong.

Thank you very much.

God bless and keep you all.

P.S. I am happy with our current RM!

[Resettozero]

P.S. I am happy with our current RM!

Me too. But I haven't noticed any change in moderation in years. I used to gripe some years back but I slowly began to learn how to stay within the parameters of the ring, although I still get tossed into the expensive seats occasionally.

Why, onyx, are so many RC's withholding their financial support of FR, or greatly reducing their contributions, and what would bring them back to the Religion Forum specifically? So very many RCs are unhappy and disenfranchised, even though the moderated RF seems tailor-made for RCs, as opposed to other free-wheeling FR forums.

[onyx]

I don't know that they are withholding. I am not privy to who donates and who doesn't, unless the donors want their names listed.

I personally find some of the open threads in the RF vile and nasty and want no part of them.

I've made it a practice to rarely read the open threads, because prior to reading some of the comments, I "viewed" all Christians as Christians and while I still "think" Christians are Christians, the open threads have soured me on a few individuals. Pity that.

God bless and keep you, from "cultist RC" me.
:)

[Grateful2God]

Thank you, Alex, for explaining. I appreciate the clarification.

Blue, in front of everyone, I sincerely apologize. I have a very strong reaction to anything I perceive as possibly denying or taking lightly, what the Jews, clergy of all denominations, and anyone else unwanted or inconvenient went through back then.

Thanks, and God bless you!

G2G

[Resettozero]

"cultist RC"

A term reserved for when you or one of your fellows really hacks me off. Never said I was a good Christian. Never once.

[mlizzy]

"cultist RC" -onyx

A term reserved for when you or one of your fellows really hacks me off. Never said I was a good Christian. Never once. -Resettozero


And you want to know why donations [might be] down from Catholics???

On this thread alone, you've insulted almost every Catholic who has spoken, and some of these people are women [where is your chivalry?], and some of these gals hold the purse strings too. Also some older folks have passed away [God love them], and new younger recruits might not like the fact there's so much disrespect shown to others [through "religion"] on this site.

[metmom]

So whatever happened to respect for the dead and not desecrating their bodies?

Whatever happened to *Rest in PEACE*?

God is the Author of LIFE. this obsession with the dead and decorated dead body parts can only have one source.

[metmom]

Just......

wow......

Equating a FReeperette with a roller-derby queen or pole dancer or abortion advocate or street walker, is a new low sunk to by a Catholic.

Be ashamed of yourself.

bb has respect because she's earned it, not because she demands it.

It means nothing if it's feigned because she's pridefully demanding it for herself.

You do not have it at this point in part because of what you just posted at her.

[metmom]

You and the other Christian men have been respectful and come to our defense when attacked by other non-Christian men.

[metmom]

A little self-control by the posters would go way further in correcting the civility of the dialogue than a whole platoon of moderators.

If people kept control of their tongue, and fingers, there’d be no need for mods.

The best place for those who are so concerned about the tenor of the forum to go is to the nearest mirror and check to make sure they aren’t part of the problem.

And the ones calling most for censorship and abolishment of the RF are the ones who are the worst offenders.

[metmom]

I have never cursed anyone; I pray that God opens your heart to people who don’t share your belief. Your reply shows how you judge others that way.

Maybe you ought to pray that for all the Catholics who call everyone who disagrees with them "heretics".

[BlueDragon]

Thanks, and God bless you!

Thank you, likewise.

Although I seriously doubt that direct persecution (like--unto death) will be coming out of pretty much any christian faith tradition anytime soon (if ever again) due to religious differences chiefly or alone, it does appear to myself that in the wider world there is a strong current within Islam which continues to attempt to draw the West into religious war with Islam.

The "liberals" sense it, and it's why they work overtime in attempt to downplay the obvious temptation.

Bin Laden had religion-based warfare in mind, the Iranian Mullahs have that in mind, and other forces seek to tear down the West while simultaneously taking over what the West has built.

Which are more dangerous to us all?

The snakes which are like cobras, or the anacondas who don't give a killing nerve toxin bite, but instead tighten their grip each time the prey exhales?

Why I'm so concerned with the religion forum of FreeRepublic (ok, I know you didn't ask) I can only say that I desire as many as possible to know and understand what is at stake. I sense that we do also on this forum receive drop-in, lurker visitors, who may arrive here as result of internet search for turns of phrase, and wordings in relation to subject matter.

The passions which drive people here, merely in internecine differences within Christian tradition can help us to understand what makes mad Mohammeds tick, perhaps, if there can be any good come of the struggling (other than from my own perspective --- persons not walk into [Roman] Catholicism expecting that to save them) for I'm not trying to convert or condemn Catholic here, but I am hoping to point to simpler and truer Way -- and do try to explain the particulars of the why's and how's of that Way. All the small subplots do continually get in the way...

This ain't tiddly-winks. Ultimately, it's for all the marbles.

But no man or group of men will be doing the final scooping up.

Of that (the last two above sentences together, in isolation) we likely can agree quite strongly.

[Resettozero]

On this thread alone, you've insulted almost every Catholic who has spoken.

Well, that's not true.

Now, you'll need to prove your accusation.

You ought to re-adjust your level of sensitivity (thin skin) or get off Free Republic and take your filthy lucre with you. This is not a Roman Catholics only website or Catholics-only Religion Forum.

And stop whining because God made you a female!

[Resettozero]

("Tell your troubles to Jesus," my wisecracking father used to say, and now I do.......at adoration.)

Your oft-repeated tagline honors NEITHER your earthly father or your Father in Heaven.

It also is a constant blatant affront to all fathers who post here...an INSULT, if you prefer the word.

[mlizzy]

Be ashamed of yourself -metmom

Have you ever asked yourself why it doesn't bother you [to be disrespected]? Maybe the roller-derby queen or pole dancer or abortion advocate or street walker wouldn't seek respect because they've been so trounced on previously, but why would you, a CHRISTIAN woman, seek “[or not be bothered by]” this disrespect? -mlizzy

Sorry I don't see it. I referred to boatbums as a CHRISTIAN woman. But I'll apologize since she and you saw it differently.

And, by the way, I've got nothing against women who get caught up in sin to begin with. I was one of them for years and years. That's why I "still" speak too harshly, I'm sure.

But if you [and boatbums] knew (and loved and respected) Mary, you'd understand better, the proper way you should be treated as women, and I would hope strive for accepting nothing less.

[Resettozero]

Sorry I don't see it.

Ask your husband to explain it to you...privately...at home.

Most sincerely,

R2z

-30-

[mlizzy]

Don't worry about my father; he was one heck of a chivalrous dude, and never, ever, insulted, a woman, ever.

As far as Jesus in adoration, that's just different beliefs between you and me. As far as thin-skinned, I have strength through the Eucharist; that's all that I need.

As far as donations being down, just ask people if they are offended by the way that you speak [about Mary, the Church, etc.]? Maybe the gals on this site don't mind being treated poorly. I don't know.

[mlizzy]

You have so much class. Not!

[metmom]

Christianity is about Christ and HE teaches people how to love and respect women.

It’s really a shame that Catholics don’t think that God or Jesus are adequate to the job.

[mlizzy]

It’s really a shame that Catholics don’t think that God or Jesus are adequate to the job.

He CAN do the job, metmom. But for women [and men] who have endured much pain in life, there's no one more beautiful to run to than Mama Mary.