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To: Brown Deer

You’re really confused. I never said anything about Frank Marshall traveling to Seattle.

I see that you’ve resorted to using Alinsky Rule 5:

Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon. It’s hard to counterattack ridicule, and it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage.

NICE TRY.


444 posted on 03/10/2014 9:34:59 PM PDT by Jonah Vark (Any 5th grader knows that the Constitution declares the separation of powers.)
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To: Jonah Vark; Brown Deer

I don’t think it’s wise to accuse Brown Deer of Alinksy-ism.


447 posted on 03/10/2014 9:59:16 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Jonah Vark
You’re really confused. I never said anything about Frank Marshall traveling to Seattle.

I'm not confused at all! I NEVER SAID THAT YOU SAID FRANK MARSHALL [DAVIS] traveled to Seattle, but YOU wrote:

“But if the book was actually written after 1960, it is possible that the author based this character on his relationship with a teen aged Ann Dunham.”

As a teenager, Stanley Ann Dunham lived in SEATTLE, WASHINGTON! So how do YOU suggest that he got together with Stanley Ann Dunham during the 1950s while she was going to school in Washington?

Alinsky taught his followers to focus on human experiences and how to twist words to achieve that focus.

NICE TRY. Please try to focus on your original comment and explain it.
455 posted on 03/10/2014 10:38:45 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Jonah Vark

Saul David Alinsky (January 30, 1909 - June 12, 1972) was an American
community organizer and writer. He is generally considered to be the founder of

modern community organizing. He is often noted for his book Rules for Radicals.

How To Create a Social State by Saul Alinsky
There are 8 levels of control that must be obtained before you are able to create a

social state. The first is the most important.
1) Healthcare - Control healthcare and you control the people
2) Poverty - Increase the Poverty level as high as possible,poor peopleare easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.
3) Debt - Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.
4) Gun Control - Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state.

5) Welfare - Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food, Housing, and Income)
6) Education - Take control of what people read and listen to - take control of what children learn in school.
7) Religion - Remove the belief in the God from the Government and schools
8) Class Warfare - Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause

more discontent and it will be easier to take (Tax) the wealthy with the support of the
poor.


465 posted on 03/10/2014 11:54:48 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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