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And the same problem to a lesser degree hurt us nationally -- besides the war, there was all of the corruption in Congress. When one of our Party's Congresscritters goes to jail that's not helpful.

Giuliani's close business partner (see Giuliani-Kerik LLC) who he appointed to by commissioner of the NYPD and later twisted Bush's arm into appointing him to be head of the Department of Homeland Security ended up narrowly escaping a jail sentence when he pleaded guilty and was convicted of his corruption crimes last year.

With Giuliani, you're arguing to repeat the exact same formula that you just condemned as contributing to our 2006 losses.

600 posted on 02/01/2007 10:04:18 AM PST by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")

Giuliani's close business partner (see Giuliani-Kerik LLC) who he appointed to by commissioner of the NYPD and later twisted Bush's arm into appointing him to be head of the Department of Homeland Security ended up narrowly escaping a jail sentence when he pleaded guilty and was convicted of his corruption crimes last year. With Giuliani, you're arguing to repeat the exact same formula that you just condemned as contributing to our 2006 losses.

That's a fair point and has to be factored in to any decision on whether or not to support him. He clearly embarassed the President and himself with that goof.