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Once again - this is NOT a child's site. Free Republic is for adults. You have made the claim that *all * Christian theologians agree with your bigotry toward Mormons - calling them a *cult* and not even using a dictionary to define it.

*You* need to back that up. I have aksed you to back it up and others have asked you to back it up.

The fact is that you have already been proven wrong in your assertions - since Methodists do not teach that Mormonisn is a *cult* and other churches as well warn against such bigoted labeling.

What I'm saying is - that you have been shown to be making false statements right here on this thread. And you need to deal with that as an adult. Correct me if I'm wrong - but making false statements is a pretty bad thing for a Christian to do, isn't it?

You said -- "The fact is that you have already been proven wrong in your assertions - since Methodists do not teach that Mormonisn is a *cult* and other churches as well warn against such bigoted labeling."

I haven't seen that to be the case with Methodists. My understanding is that the Methodist adhere to the basic and core beliefs of Christianity and are *not* non-Christian.

And it's clear that the Mormon religion is a *non-Christian religion* -- so that puts them in two different camps -- one a Christian religioin -- and the other a *non-Christian* religion. That by itself -- is the *defintion* for a cult -- being a non-Christian religion.

You said -- "What I'm saying is - that you have been shown to be making false statements right here on this thread. And you need to deal with that as an adult. Correct me if I'm wrong - but making false statements is a pretty bad thing for a Christian to do, isn't it?"

As soon as I see any false statements that were made by me, I'll let you know. So far, I haven't seen any. I believe the Methodists to be a Christian religion. You can correct me if I'm wrong there. I'm pretty sure of that.

And I'm absolutely sure that the Mormon's are a *non-Christian religion* by what I've seen myself, by the definitions that they've given and the fact that they use several other *authorities* outside of the Bible. That already puts them in the *non-Christian* group.

So, I see nothing wrong at this point. If I come across something that I catch later on, I'll let you know.

And you've already seen that somone else already verified to you that I was right in that those of the Christian faith and the Christian churches do not consider Mormonism to be a Christian religion.

They're perfectly free to make up whatever religion they want. Hey..., I wouldn't begrudge someone making Donald Duck their leader -- if they wanted. But, they couldn't call themselves a "Christian religion" if they did. And neither can Mormonism call itself a Christian religion.

Regards,
Star Traveler

You said -- "The fact is that you have already been proven wrong in your assertions - since Methodists do not teach that Mormonisn is a *cult* and other churches as well warn against such bigoted labeling."

I'm just following up with a couple of newspaper articles I stumbled across. That should make it apparent what Christian denominations think about the Mormon religion and that they are *not Christian* -- and by definition a *cult* ("Christian cult" as used in Christian terminology).

Vatican Will Not Accept Mormon Baptisms

Los Angeles Times, July 20, 2001

The Roman Catholic Church declared Thursday that Mormon converts must be rebaptized, a setback to the Mormon Church's effort to characterize itself as a Christian denomination.

The Vatican's Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith declared that baptisms in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints are "not the baptism that Christ instituted."

The ruling was a departure from the Catholic Church's usual practice of recognizing the baptisms of converts from most other churches. The Vatican held that the Mormon view of the nature of God was too different from Catholicism's.

It was the second time in as many years that a major Christian church had ruled that Mormon converts must be rebaptized. Last year, the United Methodist Church, the nation's second-largest Protestant denomination, took a similar stand.
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Dan Wotherspoon, editor of Sunstone Magazine, an independent journal of Mormon life and issues published in Salt Lake City, said, "Clearly, the LDS church still has their work cut out for them in this effort to be known as a Christian church."

In Salt Lake City, Latter-day Saints spokesmen sought to minimize the importance of the Catholic decision, or its possible effect on efforts by the church to present itself as a Christian church.
[...]

In Rome, the Vatican congregation indicated that radically different theological views of God and Jesus Christ necessitated the rebaptism of Mormon converts.

The congregation said that the Catholic Church could not accept Mormon belief that "God the father had a wife, the Celestial Mother, with whom he procreated Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit."

Methodists Say LDS Doctrine Not Christian

Salt Lake Tribune, May 11, 2000

Delegates to the United Methodists' national convention meeting in Cleveland on
Wednesday said the LDS Church ''does not fit within the bounds of the historic,
apostolic tradition of Christian faith,'' and that Mormons who convert to
Methodism need to be re-baptized.

The convention approved a study document written by two Salt Lake City
ministers, the Rev. Brian Hare-Diggs of First United Methodist Church and the
Rev. Jennifer Hare-Diggs of Centenary United Methodist Church.

The nine-page paper, passed by the Methodist General Conference without floor
discussion, spells out theological differences between The Church of Jesus
Christ of Latter-day Saints and the United Methodist Church.

It says Mormonism has ''some radically differing doctrine on such matters of
belief as the nature and being of God; the nature, origin, and purpose of Jesus
Christ; and the nature and way of salvation.''

The Methodists said Mormonism incorporates a ''gendered, married and procreating
god'' with ''a body of flesh and bones,'' and has a theology that ''more closely
resembles a tri-theistic or possibly a polytheistic faith'' than monotheism --
worship of the one God.

The Methodists also objected that ''the Jesus of Mormonism is not co-eternal with
the Father and of one substance with the Father'' and that Mormons add other
scriptures to the Bible.

The Presbyterian Church (USA) and Southern Baptist Convention have issued
similar assessments of Mormon doctrine.

The United Methodist Church is the nation's third largest religious body, with
8.4 million members, while the Mormon church ranks seventh, with 5 million
members in the United States.

Regards,
Star Traveler