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UDC marks another black Confederate grave
crossville-chronicle.com ^ | August 17, 2006 | By Clayta Richards / Chronicle staffwriter

Posted on 08/27/2006 9:13:18 AM PDT by smug

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To: stand watie
Hey, Watie, this one's for you!


61 posted on 08/27/2006 11:06:39 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: StoneWall Brigade
i guess they where slaves right forced to fight huh?

As slaves they didn't have much of a say in the matter. But in any case virtually all served in supporting roles and not as combat troops.

62 posted on 08/28/2006 3:41:36 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: 4CJ
I see that the 'Bahgdad Bob' of the liberal anti-Confederate coven is at it again. RB, What the illiterati chooses to ignore is that fact that numerous state governments authorized units, he always states that they weren't 'Confederate' soldiers. Well duh! The fought against the Lincoln regime.

Officially they were not, since the Davis regime refused to recognize them as such.

If you POST documented proof that a Black regiment was formed, his next statement will be along the lines of 'was their offer accepted?' Next he'll demand proof of service, names, ages, size of their underwear etc. Noni is the prototypical neo-con, according to him the entire Union army was comprised 100% of fighters (no cooks, teamsters, quartermasters etc).

A reasonable request given the length that all y'all go to in order to lie about black service. Will you trot out the old canard about two black regiments being at Bull Run? If you do then I'll post the confederate OOB and ask you to identify them, and then you'll slink off and ignore it.

ROTFLMC*O!!!! That's the pot calling the kettle black! The Lincoln REGIME confiscated blacks by the thousands to server as slaves/conscripts.

Tu quoque, tu quoque.

63 posted on 08/28/2006 4:09:45 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY
90,000 black Confederate soldiers? Somebody should have told these bigwigs of the CSA.

"The day that the army of Virginia allows a negro regiment to enter their lines as soldiers they will be degraded, ruined and disgraced," -Robert Toombs

"If slaves will make good soldiers, our whole theory of slavery is wrong" - Howell Cobb.

Once again the words of the Confederates themselves deflate the arguments of their latter day apologists.

64 posted on 08/28/2006 7:07:34 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
well, that is ALSO false.

ONLY leftist, REVISIONIST, scholars believe that the war was about slavery.

the MAJOR cause of the war was lincoln failing to choose PEACE, with the new dixie republic. in fact the war was about his EGO & hunger for more POWER & $$$$$$$$.

as a result of lincoln's FOLLY, a MILLION people were killed for NOTHING good.

free dixie,sw

65 posted on 08/28/2006 7:22:18 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: SoCal Pubbie
and your point is WHAT, "pubbie"????

do you HAVE a point???

NO? i thought NOT.

PLEASE do NOT capitalize any portion of my screen-name (unless of course you are talking about our tribe's beloved & VALOROUS General)

free dixie,sw

66 posted on 08/28/2006 7:25:38 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: ravinson
YES, there were SOME slaves who went to war with their owners (btw, SOME of those owners were BLACK men!), but at least 100,000 FREE "men of colour" (and NOT a few Black women!)VOLUNTEERED to fight for dixie FREEDOM.

slaves, accompanying their owners, were NOT members of the forces, as they were not free to take the Oath of Enlistment.

free dixie,sw

67 posted on 08/28/2006 7:31:00 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: Non-Sequitur
according to the official 1860 census, there was NOBODY living in Dallas, Rockwall and/or Tarrant County, TX either.

"can you say DALLAS & FORT WORTH, children??? SURE you can!"

lol at your DY propaganda!

you & i have discussed these FACTS numerous time, but still you try to evade the UNcomfortable TRUTH about dixie's BLACK soldiers, as it makes the DAMNyankee's WAR of AGGRESSION against the south look BAD!

free dixie,sw

68 posted on 08/28/2006 7:38:03 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: MissouriConservative
YEP. there ARE!

of course there always were MANY black veterans.

in the case of KY, 20% of the persons, who drew CSA pensions, were "men of colour".

free dixie,sw

69 posted on 08/28/2006 7:39:37 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY
The article refers to the 90,000 black confederate soldiers. They were freemen who fought alongside their white countrymen in integrated units.

The Negro's Pensions Law established by the Tenn. state legislature provided funds to former slaves who served their masters in the Confederate army. They were NOT freed until the North whipped the South into submission.

70 posted on 08/28/2006 8:02:52 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu l’aidera)
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To: stand watie

The point is the Confederacy LOST! Get over it, like the rest of the South has.


71 posted on 08/28/2006 8:08:42 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: stand watie
according to the official 1860 census, there was NOBODY living in Dallas, Rockwall and/or Tarrant County, TX either.

Actually, according to the official 1860 census there were 8,665 people living in Dallas county, and 6,020 in Tarrant. According to the Rockwall County website, the county wasn't formed until 1873. In 1860 it was part of Kaufman County (population 3,936).

Anything else you want to laugh at?

72 posted on 08/28/2006 8:13:38 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: SoCal Pubbie
NOBODY thinks the south won our war for FREEDOM.

otoh, i spend a lot of time explaining the TRUTH about "my ancestor's war" to IGNORANT people, who believe the DAMNyankee LIES about WHY our HONORABLE ancestors fought against the INVADERS.

free dixie,sw

73 posted on 08/28/2006 8:49:20 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: Non-Sequitur
as usual, you are WRONG!

yes, Rockwall county was formed in 1873, but the LAND & PEOPLE (NONE of whom were "enumerated") were there.

as for Dallas & Tarrant counties, ONLY those persons residing on the NORTH & EAST banks of the rivers were counted, as the bridges were "OUT" during the census. Dallas County was "undercounted" by about 80%! nobody is sure what "the undercount" in Tarrant was.

free dixie,sw

74 posted on 08/28/2006 8:54:03 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stand watie
as for Dallas & Tarrant counties, ONLY those persons residing on the NORTH & EAST banks of the rivers were counted, as the bridges were "OUT" during the census. Dallas County was "undercounted" by about 80%! nobody is sure what "the undercount" in Tarrant was.

So they made these figures up? link

75 posted on 08/28/2006 9:05:27 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
VERY LIKELY they did make a LOT of it up.

in those far away days, "enumerators" frequently DID "make things up" (SOME enumerators in the 19th century got paid for "counting people",therefore MANY of the "counted" didn't exist, except "on paper".), as they knew their work wouldn't be "checked" for accuracy. this "problem of accountability" is why the DAR & several other heritage groups will NOT accept "naked census data", absent other independent proof of lineage.

free dixie,sw

76 posted on 08/28/2006 9:18:59 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stand watie
VERY LIKELY they did make a LOT of it up.

Odd as it may seem, not everyone resorts to the same tactics as you do.

77 posted on 08/28/2006 9:40:35 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: smug
Sons Dalton and Lee received Henderson's first and last Tennessee Colored Confederate pension check upon their father's death in September 1926. The check provided enough funds to bury their father, but not enough to buy a headstone for his grave.

I guess that's how the Democrats measure the sacrifice of a Black man serving in the Confederate army.

Just good enough to buy a grave, not good enough to get a headstone or a real pension as a white Confederate veteran would have received.

The UDC and the SCV would have a lot more black members if they paid the pensions that Democrats refused to pay to the descendent's.

78 posted on 08/28/2006 9:45:18 AM PDT by usmcobra (I got my end of the world underwear on, It's totally stain proof and aluminum.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

well, since everyone KNOWS that 99% of what you post is SELF-serving, DAMNyankee, PROPAGANDA, your opinion on "honesty" is hereby DISCOUNTED to ZERO.<P.free dixie,sw


79 posted on 08/28/2006 9:52:15 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stand watie
well, since everyone KNOWS that 99% of what you post is SELF-serving, DAMNyankee, PROPAGANDA, your opinion on "honesty" is hereby DISCOUNTED to ZERO.

free dixie,sw

I find it hard to believe you were ever an officer in the United States Army based upon the way you respond to people on the internet.

80 posted on 08/28/2006 9:57:26 AM PDT by usmcobra (I got my end of the world underwear on, It's totally stain proof and aluminum.)
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