Please read the following selection from Bill Buford's excellent book and ask yourself if something, anything, strikes a chord:
No one realized what had occurred--the police had left so rapidly--but once it became apparent, the supporters started chasing after them. They threw bricks and bottles at their backs. But none of them hit their target. The police were gone; they had retreated; they had disappeared. A chant broke out--the first that afternoon--and it grew louder as more supporters appeared, entering the square from the various side streets that fed it.
England.
England.
England.
England.
There were more people.
England.
England.
England.
England.
Now that I could take it in, the crowd was larger than I had expected, not the four thousand who had begun the march, but still one of considerable size--more than a thousand. They were appearing from all directions; they had all taken up this chant. They were celebrating; the national side had won [the skirmish with the police]. I remained leaning against the wall, and remember saying aloud: My, my, my.
Many things fell into place. This chant: it was the only one I had heard in a day otherwise characterized by its enforced, sullen silence. And now: this declaration for England. It was such a simple but enormous thought: these fools, despised at home, ridiculed in the press, incapable of being contained by any act of impulsive legislation that the government had devised, wanted an England to defend. They didn't want Europe; they didn't understand Europe and didn't want to. They wanted a war. They wanted a nation to belong to and to fight for, even if the fight was this absurd piece of street theater with the local Italian police.
_____
Among the Thugs. New York: W.W. Norton & Co., 1991, p. 300-1.
1 posted on
06/09/2006 8:56:52 AM PDT by
1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
Soccer? Isn't that what little girls play in Elementary school?
129 posted on
06/09/2006 10:42:41 PM PDT by
processing please hold
(If you can't stand behind our military, stand in front of them.)
To: 1rudeboy
Relax, they know that football (the game where you must play with your foots mostly) is number one in the world while American football is nowhere near the top ten, that hurts :)
133 posted on
06/10/2006 6:44:09 AM PDT by
Lukasz
To: 1rudeboy
If you cannot bring yourself to cheer for or even defend your own country... Bite me.
135 posted on
06/10/2006 7:03:15 AM PDT by
Drango
(No electrons were harmed in this posting. Several however, were inconvenienced.)
To: 1rudeboy
I like soccer.
It gives pre-teen girls something to do.
145 posted on
06/10/2006 10:40:57 AM PDT by
Poser
(Willing to fight for oil)
To: 1rudeboy
To: 1rudeboy
I had no opinion one way or the other until yesterday, when ESPN-2 pre-empted Salt Water Sunday (fishing shows) to show soccer. I look forward to my fishing shows all week, just to have them taken away.
179 posted on
06/12/2006 10:02:56 AM PDT by
fredhead
(The greatest privilege of citizenship is to be able to freely bear arms under one's country's flag.)
To: 1rudeboy
Great post. I think that the fact that soccer requires relatively intense concentration on the part of the viewer makes it less likely to "catch on" in a country such as the US which does not have a rich history of the sport.
180 posted on
06/12/2006 11:42:18 AM PDT by
jmc813
(The best mathematical equation I have ever seen: 1 cross + 3 nails= 4 given.)
To: 1rudeboy
"So You Really Think Soccer Blows?"
Yes.
184 posted on
06/12/2006 11:59:31 AM PDT by
exile
(Mrs. Exile - "Yes you're the greatest husband ever, now put on some pants")
To: 1rudeboy
Mexican fan: Your team sucks. U.S.A. fan: Soccer is gheyMexican: Your team sucks. GOP_Raider: Soccer sucks and we suck at soccer.
185 posted on
06/12/2006 12:04:01 PM PDT by
GOP_Raider
(FR's token San Francisco Giants fan)
To: 1rudeboy
Mexican fan: Your team sucks.SECURE THE BORDER!!---er, um, sorry, force of habit I guess.
186 posted on
06/12/2006 12:07:04 PM PDT by
GOP_Raider
(FR's token San Francisco Giants fan)
To: 1rudeboy; All
Ok, I'm done with my lame attempt at sarcasm. Here's something I've never quite understood with futbol/soccer. I was watching Mexico/Iran yesterday at work and I asked myself "Self, why does the clock keep running after a foul, yellow card, etc. is called?" I've never understood this, but maybe I'm used to nearly every other game where time limits are kept (football, hockey, basketball, etc.) stopping the clock?
188 posted on
06/12/2006 12:30:57 PM PDT by
GOP_Raider
(FR's token San Francisco Giants fan)
To: 1rudeboy
It's time to quit apologizing and tell the truth. When it comes to soccer, we're right, and the rest of the world is wrong. If they want to dance in the streets of Cameroon or Belgium over this stuff, fine. But the sport does not suit American taste, and we should stop feeling guilty about it.http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/sports/14741693.htm
To: 1rudeboy
How lonely you must feel - being an American (?) who loves soccer. Using patriotism to cajole others into watching this sport (I kind of enjoy watching if nothing else is on) tells me how desperate soccer fans are to get us involved.
209 posted on
06/12/2006 4:29:15 PM PDT by
raybbr
(You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
To: 1rudeboy
87 days away!!
248 posted on
06/12/2006 8:10:06 PM PDT by
Sybeck1
(Desoto county MS Freeper)
To: 1rudeboy
Ah whatever. Not only is football the biggest sport circus on earth but also the one with the most haters.
I actually like to watch and play most big sports that were invented in the USA, except from Rugby-with-Pads. But hell, not to love football is just wrong. Misguided and wrong.
Greetings from Dortmund. This is the biggest party I ever saw. And tomorrow it's GER vs. POL in our stadium. This city will burn.
To: 1rudeboy
So You Really Think Soccer Blows?Oh yeaaaaa. You betcha!
266 posted on
06/13/2006 12:03:23 PM PDT by
TruthFactor
(The Death of Nations... pornography,homosexuality,abortion)
To: 1rudeboy
So you Think Soccer Sucks? Why, yes I do. Thanks for asking.
275 posted on
06/14/2006 11:14:33 AM PDT by
Skooz
(Chastity prays for me, piety sings...Modesty hides my thighs in her wings...)
To: 1rudeboy
Soccer (as opposed to "futbol" or what the Europeans and the rest of the world call football) is a great sport. I coached my sons from the ages of 6 and 7 to about 14. That is when soccer is interesting. 13 and 14 year olds who know what they are doing on small fields. Offense, defense and strategy. Not what the World Cup offers.
After saying that, I will likely not spend any time watching the World Cup games on TV. For us Americans, the problems with soccer revolve around the fact that as it is currently configured, soccer is not made for TV. The field is too big, there are too many players and there is little if any real action. Most of what you see on TV now is the green field, a few players and the ball being kicked back and forth in the middle of the field far from the goals.
Soccer should be changed for American TV and interest, considering that it is the most popular sport for kids these days. Make the field about the size of an American football field or smaller, reduce the teams to 7 or 8 a side and find ways to increase scoring. You need more action. The rules on the clock are ridiculous. Make 2 or 3 periods of specific time length and in the last 2 minutes stop the clock. No more of this arbitrary "extra time" decided by referees. Until the game is changed (not likely given that the rest of the world seems to like the way it is set up), it will be difficult to get significant American fan support.
276 posted on
06/14/2006 12:01:56 PM PDT by
kevinm13
(The Main Stream Media is dead! Fox News Channel Rocks!)
To: 1rudeboy
Soccer (as opposed to "futbol" or what the Europeans and the rest of the world call football) is a great sport. I coached my sons from the ages of 6 and 7 to about 14. That is when soccer is interesting. 13 and 14 year olds who know what they are doing on small fields. Offence, defence and strategy. The best team usually wins. Not what the World Cup offers. Not decided by a stupid referee call or lack of call. Sheer luck can win games considering the low scores. A lucky shot from mid-field (a long way away) can win a game.
After saying that, I will likely not spend any time watching the World Cup games on TV. For us Americans, the problems with soccer revolve around the fact that as it is currently configured, soccer is not made for TV. The field is too big, there are too many players and there is little if any real action. Most of what you see on TV now is the green field, a few players and the ball being kicked back and forth in the middle of the field far from the goals.
Soccer should be changed for American TV and interest, considering that it is the most popular sport for kids these days. Make the field about the size of an American football field or smaller, reduce the teams to 7 or 8 a side and find ways to increase scoring. You need more action. The rules on the clock are ridiculous. Make 2 or 3 periods of specific time length and in the last 2 minutes stop the clock. No more of this arbitrary "extra time" decided by referees. Until the game is changed (not likely given that the rest of the world seems to like the way it is set up), it will be difficult to get significant American fan support.
277 posted on
06/14/2006 12:04:57 PM PDT by
kevinm13
(The Main Stream Media is dead! Fox News Channel Rocks!)
To: 1rudeboy
So You Really Think Soccer Blows? Well, not as much as curling does, but yeah. Thanks for your interst.
285 posted on
06/19/2006 2:32:55 PM PDT by
LongElegantLegs
(You can do that, and be a whack-job pedophile on meth.)
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