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To: thomaswest; xzins; jude24; blue-duncan
Without this support in the largest Christian congregations, ID has no real base.

When we all get to the great beyond we will all be IDers. God will show us exactly how he made the heavens and the earth and all that in them is in 6 days, just like he wrote down on the tablets of stone. And we will understand. And we will marvel.

Now, can we get back to the legal issues?

All that nonsense at the Dover school; all that inquiry into the intents of those who drafted the disclaimer would be irrlevant if the Lemon Test did not demand a "religious test" for legislation that creates the kind of entanglement between the courts and religion that logically would be prohibited by the excessive entanglement prong of the same stupid test.

76 posted on 05/25/2006 6:26:42 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (((172 * 3.141592653589793238462) / 180) * 10 = 30.0196631)
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To: P-Marlowe
God will show us exactly how he made the heavens and the earth and all that in them is in 6 days, just like he wrote down on the tablets of stone. And we will understand. And we will marvel.

And He will explain how he hid all those bones and other artifacts and we will share in His Joke on Mankind.

All that nonsense at the Dover school; all that inquiry into the intents of those who drafted the disclaimer would be irrlevant if the Lemon Test did not demand a "religious test" for legislation that creates the kind of entanglement between the courts and religion that logically would be prohibited by the excessive entanglement prong of the same stupid test.

Look, I know your quals in the legal arena, but here you are treading water. The entanglement was brought by those who suggested that religion (the Creation Myth) somehow should be introduced as "an alternative theory." Creationism and ID are no more "alternate theories" than "angels hold airplanes aloft" is an "alternate theory" of aerodynamics.

This is the court DISentangling the religion quagmire.

86 posted on 05/25/2006 6:38:57 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (I LIKE you! When I am Ruler of Earth, yours will be a quick and painless death </Stewie>)
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To: P-Marlowe; js1138; Coyoteman
Re 76: When we all get to the great beyond we will all be IDers. God will show us exactly how he made the heavens and the earth and all that in them is in 6 days, just like he wrote down on the tablets of stone. And we will understand. And we will marvel.

Hmm. Do I see a Theory of life-after-death here?

Again, we need to see some evidence. Everyone knows that many scams promoted by 'spiritualists' to communicate with the departed. We all know about self-proclaimed "psychics" who claim to know the dearly departed. We all know about priests and pastors who claim that reunion with the dearly departed will be possible if we "believe enough", pray "enough", and tithe "enough".

Money interests are always important--charlatans need to have an income, too!

It is hard to measure "failure to attain eternal life". The respondents from Hell are few; the respondents from Heaven are few. Those that claim to"know God" make claims, but they never tell the rest of us God's email address. This secretiveness about knowing "God's will" is rather weird.

As an hypothesis: I suggest that all those who claim to know about God are making it all up in their minds. There is some evidence for this hypothesis: a tentative theory about the natural world; a concept that is not yet verified but that if true would explain certain facts or phenomena; "a scientific hypothesis that survives experimental testing becomes a scientific theory" Thanks to coyoteman at post 15.

109 posted on 05/25/2006 6:59:02 PM PDT by thomaswest (Just curious)
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