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To: SampleMan; Wolfstar; Filo; From many - one.; Condorman; Junior; AntiGuv; PatrickHenry
the vast majority are from people who are traditional evolutionists, and are attacking me for advocating ID, which I'm not

That's a really funny thing to claim in a thread which YOU started in order to post an article ADVOCATING ID...

So when you claim that you're not advocating ID, are you a) being dishonest, b) that confused about your own posting history from five days ago, or c) telling us that you post advocacy articles you don't even believe yourself?

And no, your attempted "disclaimer" in post #1 doesn't get you off the hook, since you spoke approvingly of the contents of the article, thus endorsing its ID advocacy and its cheap attacks on evolutionary biology and its practitioners.

So don't act all confused and wounded and whiny about how people "attack" you for "advocating ID" when you haven't, because by posting the wildly partisan pro-ID article and saying that it "describes ID fairly well", you're personally endorsing a strongly pro-ID position. I just wish you'd be honest enough to stand behind it, instead of running away from your convictions and hiding behind a disingenuous facade of "open mindedness" and "research".

Your personal view on this matter has been made quite clear, here and in many other posts you've made. Stop trying to be coy about it, you're doing it so clumsily that no one's buying it, and it just makes you look puerile.

244 posted on 03/30/2006 11:59:45 AM PST by Ichneumon
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To: Ichneumon
Intelligent Design is to science what "The Da Vinci Code" is to Christianity.
246 posted on 03/30/2006 12:03:42 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Yo momma's so fat she's got a Schwarzschild radius.)
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To: Ichneumon
I just wish you'd be honest enough to stand behind it, instead of running away from your convictions...

Your post #244 was well-stated, Ichneumon. I especially applaud the point you made in the quote above.

254 posted on 03/30/2006 12:17:19 PM PST by Wolfstar (You can't tell me it all ends in a slow ride in a hearse...No, this can't be all there is...)
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To: Ichneumon
Sure I'll post an article I don't believe in, am completely against, agree with, or find amusing.

This is a discussion forum. You might notice that people post a lot of articles that they don't fully or at all agree with.

If I've taken advocacy, its in noting that the hostility is coming from one particular area, and taking offense at wild eyed insults.

I felt there were a few good posts countering the article and thanked the posters. You were not one of them.

You have a real problem with accepting that I'm telling the truth. To bad, I don't really care what you think. You're just having a tantrum.

There are several posters with much more knowledge than me that can rationally discuss my ideas on mutation/evolution (which isn't ID) without the fist pounding and spittel. I'm going to start ignoring the others.
268 posted on 03/30/2006 12:43:26 PM PST by SampleMan
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