I wasn't aware that there was "some thought by Jews themselves" that the Holocaust was divine punishment. How widespread is this thinking?
It includes 100% of Jews who believe the section of scripture that I sent to you. Did you read it?
See this.
Even others think that it wasn't punishment in the first person, but that these things are allowed to happen because GOD has withdrawn himself as punishment.
You do realize that when one links biblical examples of punishment of Jews to modern day examples, one is saying that Jews were righteously dealt with in the Holocaust.
Utter nonsense. You extrapolate way too much.
I'm willing to admit when I don't know how GOD works, and I don't presume to know better than him what is right. Was the holocaust direct Punishment from GOD? I don't know. I think it was more likely a product of the punishment, GOD turning his face away (His countenance) and allowing terrible people to do terrible things until the time that GOD's chosen people are redeemed to GOD with great joy.
It includes 100% of Jews who believe the section of scripture that I sent to you. Did you read it? See this.[link]Yes I read it. If God wills an action, then by definition it is just. I'm skeptical you'll find many Jews on FR who will say the Holocaust was a just punishment of European Jewry for their sins.
Even others think that it wasn't punishment in the first person, but that these things are allowed to happen because GOD has withdrawn himself as punishment.
It still means they deserved their fate because they sinned.
You do realize that when one links biblical examples of punishment of Jews to modern day examples, one is saying that Jews were righteously dealt with in the Holocaust.
Utter nonsense. You extrapolate way too much.
In biblical examples, Jews sinned and were righteously punished by the will of God. If one says the Holocaust was divine punishment, then the same applies. You simply can't get around the fact that if you invoke divine will, then the sufferers deserved their fate.
BTW, the poster you've been defending was the one who put the Nazi card in play: ever hear of them Nazi furnaces
Was the holocaust direct Punishment from GOD? I don't know. I think it was more likely a product of the punishment, GOD turning his face away (His countenance) and allowing terrible people to do terrible things until the time that GOD's chosen people are redeemed to GOD with great joy. So, you hypothesize, just as Hitler repeatedly did, that the Nazi's were doing God's work.