Posted on 02/20/2006 5:33:50 AM PST by ToryHeartland
1600?
How guilty can a 9 year old virgin be of anything?
It isn't a matter of 'guilt'...
NIV Psalms 79:8
Do not hold against us the sins of the fathers; may your mercy come quickly to meet us, for we are in desperate need.
NIV Jeremiah 31:29-30
29. "In those days people will no longer say, `The fathers have eaten sour grapes, and the children's teeth are set on edge.'
30. Instead, everyone will die for his own sin; whoever eats sour grapes--his own teeth will be set on edge.
You CANNOT be unaware of the fact that nits grow up to be lice.
It was COMMON practice in those days to eliminate the 'children' of whoever you conquered, lest they bitterly mature and rise up against you.
Notice the termoil in the MiddleEast today because the Israelites of old did NOT finish off the 'sinners' of their day!
And counting :)
yatsa' qatan na`ar `iyr
yatsa' -- to go (causatively, bring) out, ...
qatan -- abbreviated, i.e. diminutive, literally (in quantity, size or number) or figuratively (in age or importance)
na`ar -- babe, boy, child, damsel (from the margin), lad, servant, young (man).
`iyr -- a city ... in the widest sense (even of a mere encampment or post) -- Ai (from margin), city, court (from margin), town.
The literal reading is 'there came forth little boys out of the city'
The cross-references indicate these would be prepubescent youngsters.
Checking the literal translations show 'little boys' to be the favored term.
But the 'thought-for-thought' translations have them as 'youths'. Usually with margin notes explaining why 'little' doesn't apply to teen hooligans that deserved to be ripped apart for mocking Elijah ...
:-)
Why? I believe it very likely that life arrose through natural means, but God created the laws of nature such that life would emerge. There is nothing in that statement that conflicts with modern science, and it is perfectly consistent with what the professor had the kids affirm.
To me the professor boxed kids in a corner which excluded any belief in a creator.
No one was boxed into anything.
Me and you both. :)
Failed your driving test?
Do you have it installed yet? Is their a icon in your Tray?
NIV Deuteronomy 21:18-21
18. If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him,
19. his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town.
20. They shall say to the elders, "This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a profligate and a drunkard."
21. Then all the men of his town shall stone him to death. You must purge the evil from among you. All Israel will hear of it and be afraid.
Gratuitous scripture quoting. that'll be $100.
So is this a literal or allegorical reading of the Bible?
Looks to me to be English. But don't quote me on that. :0
baqa` -- to cleave; generally, to rend, break, rip or open.
You're behind the power curve. I've already shown it.
post-modern Biblical translation placemarker.
A recruiting slogan for the SS?
"Natural processes" itself is the bastard child of an arbitrary choice of worldviews and has nothing to do with "science."
Science belongs just as much in the domain of the progenitors of modern science as any other. The activities of Kepler, Pasteur, Faraday, and others were NOT done in a wold of "Physical and chemical processes that require no miracles" but in a world where God demonstrated his miraculous intervention into the world every day by supernatural activity of sustaining the world He had made. Indeed, those men viewed science as an investigation of how He governed the world, down to the details.
Your "natural processes" are simply an arbitrary choice of a worldview which ARBITRARILY excludes the supernatural and then tries to pull a sleight of hand to say "science only deals with this, so we cannot operate in a supernatural realm." It is a silly argument, and I am astounded that people repeat the same tripe over and over, as though the lack of empirical measurements of the supernatural means that science must operate from a starting point of naturalism. One does not follow from the other.
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