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To: Dimensio

All natural macro processes (those happening at less than .3 times the speed of light) result in matter moving to ever greater levels of disorder. More ordered forms of matter are only possible with large energy inputs, because so much is lost as entropy. I would like someone to approach the evolution problem mathematically.


734 posted on 01/27/2006 4:44:30 PM PST by Retain Mike
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To: Retain Mike
All natural macro processes (those happening at less than .3 times the speed of light) result in matter moving to ever greater levels of disorder.

Demonstrate this.
735 posted on 01/27/2006 4:45:34 PM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Retain Mike; Dimensio
All natural macro processes (those happening at less than .3 times the speed of light) result in matter moving to ever greater levels of disorder.

Uh huh. Sure. You betcha. Then please explain how this order arose from disordered water vapor by macro processes at less than .3 times the speed of light:

More ordered forms of matter are only possible with large energy inputs, because so much is lost as entropy.

Actually, snowflakes (which are "more ordered forms of matter" than the water vapor from which they form) are easily formed when the vapor *LOSES* energy and cools; the process in no way requires "large energy inputs" as you assert.

I regret to inform you that you haven't a clue what in the hell you're talking about.

835 posted on 01/28/2006 1:34:57 PM PST by Ichneumon
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