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To: YHAOS
ID isn't ready. It hasn't an organized curriculum. It hasn't a discipline. It hasn't certification standards. It can't yet be evaluated for accreditation purposes.

More important than any of the above: it's not remotely credible as science.

265 posted on 11/20/2005 7:50:08 PM PST by blowfish
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To: blowfish
[ID]'s not remotely credible as science.

That’s your opinion.

Before you commence frothing at the mouth and slobbering all over yourself, recall that we are not discussing science in all its chaste and spotless virtue. We are discussing state control of science education at the elementary and secondary level. In a representative republic, you don’t get to issue a categorical edict to the appropriate governing board or commission; you get to register your vote. So, be polite, and say ‘please’ to the nice ladies and gentlemen who decide how education should be taught. You see, it’s their opinion that counts.

Ultimately, the people get to register their opinion, and in the case of Dover, the opinion of the people resulted in a clean sweep of those responsible there for educational public policy. You should be happy, but I’ll bet you aren’t. Scientists seem to think they can get both front feet in the public trough, and pay no price for the privilege. Those who bogey on a Freeper forum ought to know better.

Kansas is even more instructive. Yeah, those ignoramuses have been doing it the way it should be done for some six years now. Back in ‘99, a conservative state board decided to change the education standards to include ID. The Liberals & Moderates campaigned on the ID issue, and enough conservatives on the board were turned out so that prior standards were restored. This action fired up the conservatives and got them cracking. The conservatives campaigned hard, submitted themselves to the judgment of the people, and won back control of the board. That’s how matters of public policy should be conducted in a representative republic. That brings us up to the present. If the new policy causes problems, then the conservatives will be turned out, and a different policy will be installed. If not, then a different issue or issues will become the deciding factor. Unless, that is, some Liberal bawl-baby decides to go running to the courts, “boo-hoo hoo! those meanies won’t play fair” and gives the courts an opportunity to meddle in what should be a local affair, if we are to have government education at all.

328 posted on 11/21/2005 9:29:09 PM PST by YHAOS
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