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To: Rockingham

My giggling is becoming hard to control: the pro-Marijuana side

It's just me talking here, I don't speak for any collective group. Apparently you're  projecting  collectivism. I'm pro-honesty. 

Marijuana is harmful but on the scale of harmful things it's relatively low on the list. It's stupid to smoke it. Even stupider to make a war on an inanimate object and lose. The WOsomeD is a war on people.

Taking this to a wider perspective. A conversation I had with a public defender the other day on FP.

And plea bargains are an absolute necessity when you have as many criminal cases filed as you do in this country. 

Not only has the justice system failed, so has the legislative. Legislators, the media and educators tell us that if not for each years new laws people and society would run head long into destruction. Clinton's two terms created 3,000 new laws and regulations each year. Question, how is it that the people and society didn't self-destruct prior to the 1990's? Not to mention how it is that people and society are not now self-destructing without the new laws and regulations to come over the next five, ten, fifteen years. Apparently the above mentioned parasitical elites would have us believe that people and society are constantly on the tipping point of self destruction. In reality people and society increasingly prosper, moving away from destruction.

To try the other nintey something percent, we'd need a good forty times as many courtrooms, judges, bailiffs, prosecutors, public defenders, jurors, clerks, court reporters, and on and on and on. We'd go bankrupt.

Virtually every person breaks the law a few times each year. If every lawbreaker could be apprehended next week, society would run headlong into destruction. Yet with all those lawbreakers running lose society is not in danger of self-destruction. The fact is, the number of violent crimes, crimes where a person initiates force, threat of force or fraud against a person or business is a small fraction of the laws broken. For example, over half the convictions last year were for non-violent drug offenses.

If the legislature did it's constitutional job the justice system already has enough people to handle the violent-criminal load. See my tag line  Nothing personal. Honesty rules. It shines a spotlight on errors.

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"No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another, and this is all from which the laws ought to restrain him." -- Thomas Jefferson

If a person thinks they have been harmed by a person's act of possessing drugs they can take the person to court before an impartial jury and try to convince the jurors that they were harmed and to what extent so that they may gain restitution for their pain and suffering.

Drug warriors and gun-control nazis enlist and advocate government agents to initiate harm and suffering on people that are minding their own business and have harmed no one except perhaps themselves.

Lastly, it's obvious that Anslinger  hypocrisy on the commerce clause.

You're anti-honesty.

278 posted on 11/06/2005 9:06:04 AM PST by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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To: Zon
You posted re a WODdie: You're anti-honesty.

Were we to have transparency and honesty, the 'system' wouldn't last a week.

Lies are the last element of a socialist regime to be abandoned. The lies will be clung to when all else is gone.

It's the Jonestown paradigm.

283 posted on 11/06/2005 9:16:02 AM PST by headsonpikes (The Liberal Party of Canada are not b*stards - b*stards have mothers!)
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To: Zon
And plea bargains are an absolute necessity when you have as many criminal cases filed as you do in this country.

And how many of the criminal cases that are filed are a result of people who plea-bargained on earlier cases re-offending?

Plea bargains are an abomination of justice. They ease the punishments on the guilty, while making them more harsh for the innocent.

351 posted on 11/06/2005 11:58:53 AM PST by supercat (Don't fix blame--FIX THE PROBLEM.)
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To: Zon
Again, the problem is that your view of the commerce clause coincides with Anslinger's -- an uncomfortable ally for you to have. Laugh it off. From time to time, we all get stuck with allies that we would prefer not to have.
510 posted on 11/06/2005 9:21:06 PM PST by Rockingham
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