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To: Howlin
Howlin,

The hearings will tell us nothing. She will refuse to answer questions on cases she says may come before the court. She will give long answers to questions that were not asked. The Senators will huff and puff before the cameras. That process has never, ever been about finding out what the candidate believes, nor it is a review of qualifications.

Before I go on...

Since people are on the attack mode around here in a way I have never seen before, I have to do this little dance with post right now and say this: This is my opinion. There, hope you all can sleep tonight now.

To continue, the hearings do serve a purpose in that they gives us a sense of the candidate, how well they hold up to public scrutiny, and how well they communicate. Judge Bork showed he was 10 times smarter than everyone else in the room, but the media was after him, and there was no alternate media in 1987. In Clarence Thomas case, it was a hideous spectacle that in the end made his accusers look like the monsters they were. Judge Roberts was simply brilliant and could out think every blow hard with one hand tied behind his back. But we learned nothing of their philosophy. It was a political exercise.

But we should not delude ourselves that anything will be learned from the hearings. No, the time for vetting was before the announcement. If the nominee had been Janice Rogers Brown, then we would have know what we were getting. We would have know her view from cases such as the American Academy of Pediatrics vs. Lungren concerning parental consent for abortions in the case of minors. We would have known liability from the case of Loder vs. City of Glendale. Affirmative action, family rights, etc were all laid out. I can already hear the retorts to me even bringing her up as an example: "You are just WHINNING 'cause he didn't pick her, huh!" No, her, or any number of dozens of better candidates. Miers has never been loyal to Conservatism. She has been loyal to Bush. In 3 years, Bush will be granted a much deserved retirement, and Miers will be with us for 25 years.

Now the critics will argue that because of this "paper trail" good judges like Brown, Griffith, Owen, etc shouldn't have been nominated, and she wasn't. So, we give up the fight with 55 Senators before we even enter the ring. We act like the French and wear a white flag around our necks.

Is this the message we send to all Conservative judges and lawyers from now on? "Hey, don't ever have an opinion on anything. NEVER fight for what you believe in, cause it will leave a paper trail, and we won't nominate you for the the high courts."

The doubts about Harriet Miers are already there. They won't be altered by the hearings. Yes, I'll read the news synopsis', but I already feel betrayed, and so do many, many other people.

I can see this debate is going nowhere fast. It has been going on all day and I am sure the posts will continue into the night. From my standpoint, we lost an golden opportunity to change the court, and now we will pay the price. I am not confident Miers will be on the side I support. I just am not.

Thanks for listening Howlin. You should know how much I respect and appreciate you here on FR. Thanks again, and good night.

Sky

870 posted on 10/09/2005 4:34:35 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot; Howlin
this the message we send to all Conservative judges and lawyers from now on? "Hey, don't ever have an opinion on anything. NEVER fight for what you believe in, cause it will leave a paper trail, and we won't nominate you for the the high courts."

Are the critics REALLY trying to argue that Conservative Judge make their decisions based on how they think the Conservative Establishment will REWARD them???? That they do not do their duty for what is right and just and the Law but out of the hopes of appeasing the Conservative Establishment?

If that is the case, they should be impeached tomorrow right next to the Liberal Clinton Judges who do this to appease the Liberal Machine!

Sorry when most of us say we want a STRICT Constructionists we mean it. We are NOT looking for a Judicial activist who will be activist in OUR favor!

Simply unbelievable. Feel like I must be in the twilight zone. This argument doesn't work, switch to that, that ones does work try that other thing. NO good? How about this, or this, or this. Do the Miers critics ever bother LISTENING to themselves? This is sheer lunacy.

"We must reward the Conservative Judges or they will be demoralized" Demoralized from doing their duty? Because they were not picked? Doesn't sound like Scalia or Thomas think so. Funny how they all scream "Miers is not tough enough to face the pressure of the court" then turn around and tell us the Conservative Judges are a bunch of squishy prima donnas whose feeling are hurt by all this and unless we appease them that will make them lose all their principals and quit being Conservatives!!!!

So which is it are the "tough enough for the court" are a bunch of squichy eqo maniacs?

UGGGGGGGGG! It's over. Simply cannot take the rabid unwillingness to think any more. What the HECK happened to Ronald Reagan's Conservatives?

Mr President Reagan, I miss you very much today. For just 5 minutes of your wit and sanity what I would not give.

879 posted on 10/09/2005 4:55:59 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Professional Journalism- the Buggy Whip makers of the 21st century)
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To: SkyPilot

If people are in attack mode in a way you've never seen around here, you somehow managed to miss the Trent Lott, total border sealing and California recall threads in the past couple of years ;-)


887 posted on 10/09/2005 5:04:23 PM PDT by cake_crumb
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