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SunMoonStars wrote:
Current Affair
We pulled several items off of Tickle.com
These three guys, particularly Joran described themselves as having pretty healthy sex drives
We learned of these before they were even arrested
Hooking up with women, it was explicit
They put their cellphones on the internet, we picked up the phone and called Joran in the very beginning
Fluffy Monkey wrote:
Scarborough guest host Lisa: 8-26-05
Some of the details may be horrible, is your family ready to accept?
Paul: We are focused on the truth, not thinking about the consequences, we need to stay focused on getting answers. Spoke with Beth this morning, This is what we were working for. Appreciative of all the efforts. We think all three are involved, not necessarily K2 more than JVDS. We think father is involved in cover-up.
Pam: Important developments today, different pictures of the boys, especially as girls come forward. Serial rapists who prey. Freddie added in gives prosecution leverage.
Stacie (sex crimes prosecutor) If the four of them prey on young girls, good for the prosecution, opportunity to break . Lets hope that on 9-4 we all know the evidence that they have been holding.
Pam: If media had not kept attention on the case.. kept case alive per the wishes of the family. Conspiracy is only as good as the people in it. Biggest asset is now that there are so many people involved. Even Joran may get nervous – what will the others say.
Tease: did a local reporter break this case open?
Jossy: Freddie arrested today for selling photos of “young ladies without any clothes on” (Freddie?). Freddie was questioned early on with an alibi to protect Joran, then release, now arrested as a suspect for selling photos.These four guys are party-boy friends who prey on young girls. They call theselves “The Pimps” They are probably trying to squeeze Freddie. Know for certain they are closely-kniw, the party together, photo’s together, everywhere! No knowledge that he was selling photos of Natalee, but certainly a possibility.
Clint VZ: This case gives a unique look into Criminal Investigation in another country – they can arrest differently than US. Not charged, no right to counsel, authorities can start to play him, to use him. K2 have bonded, Joran is on his own -- Freddie has info on all of them. Once one starts falling….
Pam: Think Freddie is the one sweating right now.
Candice: Joran is not going to break. Freddie is most likely to break. Disturbed by the phrase “The Pimps”
Pam: Maybe they are saying “the first one to talk is going to get some deal”. Have they been getting away with this with other tourist girls?
Recap of evidence: vehicles, Search of VDS, multiple landfill searches, multiple DNA searches.
Candice: Don’t know if there is enough to prosecute based on his list of evidence, but there may be more that we are not aware of, like email or taped phone calls or witness testimony.
Stacie: Forenseics are always important, especially in sex cases, but you can have rape cases without. It is not un-prosecutable, witnesses might matter a lot.
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SunMoonStars wrote:
Greta Fri
Linda: Beth and I spoke early this morning, she was very excited
Very good news for the family.
It was very good news for me as well as Beth, we both felt they shouldn't have been released July 4th
We are just hoping that we will find answers as to where Natalee is
While I am excited about this rearrest, I am somewhat guarded
Who knows, after the 8 days, they may release them
The email address that I set up, has had 100s of emails everyday
No actual tips as to other young girls
One of the emails that I received from someone had some pics of Joran, Kalpoes and Freddy
I have not heard from anything from officicals, just that he is a friend of Jorans from people from Aruba
One of my sources in Aruba said that Freddy lived close to Joran
The response was so overwhelming at the benefit last night
Timeline
Greta:
According to the statements from Nadira and Kock
1:50 am May 30th Deepak and Satish home
2:00 am someone on the internet until 3:00 am
2:40 am first phone call from Joran to Deepak
3:00 am is the second call from Joran to Deepak..same time he gets off the internet
Joran has himself walking home, Kalpoe has himself going and picking him up and driving him home