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Bush supports 'intelligent design'
MyrtleBeach Online ^ | 02 August 2005 | Ron Hutcheson

Posted on 08/02/2005 4:16:26 AM PDT by PatrickHenry

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To: thefactor

I feel sorry for those who can believe so much in the world but doubt God. It's sad.


21 posted on 08/02/2005 4:54:41 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: Junior

So the evos can repeat the same thing over and over but if those who believe in God as creator can't? That seems fair.


22 posted on 08/02/2005 4:55:45 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: TonyRo76
all that other discarded cr@p?

"All that other discarded crap" is why we're not still teaching Aristotle's theories as current scientific doctrine. It's called the "scientific method". You may have heard of it.

23 posted on 08/02/2005 4:56:20 AM PDT by RogueIsland
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To: ConsentofGoverned
"Theory of intelligent design may well be the more powerful influence on biologic diversity with evolution being just a tool much like a computer that is useless without the software."

The trouble is that there is no Theory of intelligent design.

24 posted on 08/02/2005 4:57:26 AM PDT by Rudder
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To: Soul Seeker

"If evolution IS the Truth let it experience competition. Let the weaker theory fall. It works in economics."

How refreshing!! Yet, you'll find few that will be willing to concede ANYTHING scientific regarding the ID debate. For them, it is quite simple: they know what will happen if people actually start THINKING about this stuff.

They'll start questioning what funds it.

And then, they'll find that about 80 cents of every science research dollar comes straight from .... the U.S. Gov't.

And then, they'll start asking questions, like, what value are we getting for all that expenditure?

And then, they'll start seeing that an awful lot of biologists in major universities really, really love wine and cheese shin digs.

And then, they'll start calling congressman, and say things like, 'maybe they might do more w/ less...'.

And we know that if THAT happens, then the Foundation Priests of Secularism will be forced to compete with, horrors! other Priests.

So, in short, your metaphor is excellent. In the end, it is about breaking a BONA FIDE ECONOMIC MONOPOLY, and G. Bush, is sounding more and more like T. Roosevelt. It is a good day today!


25 posted on 08/02/2005 4:57:33 AM PDT by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/Laocoon.htm)
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To: Rudder

I don't see what the big deal is. Intelligent design could mean a lot of things, only one of them divine. It could also mean extraterrestrial. Nobody knows for certain where life on this planet came from or how it progressed. The scientists are right on both accounts. There is a certain amount of evolution that takes place and there is a whole lot of things that can't be explained by evolution. Teaching both views is does not hamper science but rather invigorates it. If you don't believe one view or the other then prove it. There is nothing like a little competition over views to stir a debate.


26 posted on 08/02/2005 4:58:56 AM PDT by Tempestuous
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To: mlc9852

It'd be very nice to have an omnipresent invisible Abba that actually answers prayers and loves us more than anything else. However, if he exists, he's sure a big believer in the "hands off" parenting approach.

Granted, absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, and perhaps he is simply teaching us a lesson in faith. *shrugs*


27 posted on 08/02/2005 4:59:41 AM PDT by Seamoth
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To: Physicist
"That's funny...that's exactly what the Clintons said about Heather Has Two Mommies."

Great insight into the Clinton's priorities . The Clintons constantly made sexual acts the center of their administration. History will not be kind to them ..

YOU elevate a deviate life style to the level of this debate on origin of life..perhaps you are unable to see the reflection on YOUR own thought process which might give you an insight into your being unable to see intelligent design as a possibility.
28 posted on 08/02/2005 5:00:06 AM PDT by ConsentofGoverned (A sucker is born every minute..what are the voters?)
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To: TonyRo76

Eugenics ... my my .... I wonder how often that word gets used in SCEINCE classrooms, or even history classrooms...

To the lurkers out there, you'll find that thread after thread, this poster pretty much is consistent in revealing that he finds the agenda of evolutionists to be less than appealing.

Eugenics is a find word to attach to the whole debate. Remember the book 'The Bell Curve'?


30 posted on 08/02/2005 5:02:17 AM PDT by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/Laocoon.htm)
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To: PatrickHenry

Another soul lost to the irrational myths of ID and creationism. I feel this country slowly sliding back into the superstitious middle ages.


31 posted on 08/02/2005 5:03:13 AM PDT by oldfarmer (Mark 16:17-18)
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To: oldfarmer

Yes, all those who don't believe in evolution are superstitious, backwards hicks. LOL


33 posted on 08/02/2005 5:06:32 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: PatrickHenry
One of Hollywood's greatest movies, 2001 A SPACE ODYSSEY, clearly displays the intelligent design theory, or at least one possible version.

The notion of assisted evolution is as plausible as genetically engineered wheat, corn, farm animals, etc. that we are familiar with today.

34 posted on 08/02/2005 5:07:20 AM PDT by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
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To: mlc9852
Yes, all those who don't believe in evolution are superstitious, backwards hicks.

I couldn't have put it better myself.

35 posted on 08/02/2005 5:08:47 AM PDT by oldfarmer (Mark 16:17-18)
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To: oldfarmer
How sad to be so very narrow-minded. You really should be open to more possibilities in life. Makes it interesting.
36 posted on 08/02/2005 5:10:25 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: mlc9852

Yes basically. I've seen it said here too.


37 posted on 08/02/2005 5:10:40 AM PDT by cyborg (to love,honor and obey...)
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To: Tempestuous

ID can be taught in Sunday school, but it's not a science nor is it scientifically derived. It's merely an idea dreamed up by those who do not comprehend science.


38 posted on 08/02/2005 5:11:27 AM PDT by Rudder
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To: mlc9852

thanks for the pity, but it is not warranted. just because i do not believe in a book written to keep people in line and is, at BEST, loosely translated from the original text, does not make me a bad person. i merely subscribe to a different ideology.


39 posted on 08/02/2005 5:11:54 AM PDT by thefactor
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To: Junior
"I bet they'll simply stem from a misunderstanding of what the science actually says."

For evolution to work to explain life we must make one leap of faith..that DNA did not contain any Genetic information at the beginning of life..all changes in species results from RANDOM mutations ..which result in viable life forms..our study of mutations which have a major impact on organs always results in individuals with less ability to survive..cancers for one genetic disease another ..the idea that random derangement of DNA lead to biodiversity has no basis in fact.. the physics of H2O as needed for life are in conflict with most other matter ...ie freezing and expanding solid less mass than liquid -the fact that Earth has water in liquid form files against the rest of our solar systems other planets ..just chance i guess or is Earth an environment designed for LIFE.
40 posted on 08/02/2005 5:13:35 AM PDT by ConsentofGoverned (A sucker is born every minute..what are the voters?)
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