Posted on 04/21/2005 9:20:39 PM PDT by Coleus
ClintoBeGone - Correct.
So, in post 55 and 72 you imply the American Indians prospered under free trade, but in post 63 you imply they did not prosper...
What is it ?
BTW, no flame intended...
Yes but Mexico has a great deal of Oil, monies from this could be used to help all of us. The would lower tha Oil imported to the US from Islamic countries and would offer greater exploration of oil in the Mexican areas.
Mexico has quite a lot of oil. It is cheaper to buy it from them then it is to take responsibility for their 100 million poor people.
God hates a liar.
It is wrong to deceive.
There is no dishonor in being poor.
And, unless it is contrary to the laws of God, we are to follow the laws of the civil government.
It sounds like this 'Bishop' did his seminary work studying the art of social relativism and Karl Marx rather than eternal truths of the Bible...
Just an Idea, Let's build a double wall out of Concrete topped with chainlink and razor wire and in between the walls put in land mines. Seperate Entrances points for people and trade goods. Mexican trucks deliver to the border warehouses, good are inspected and transportation into the country done by us truckers only. Create jobs, control the border and know who is in th ecountry.
To locate illegal immigrants:
Place a large fine w/jail time for companies who are employing illegals
Place a bounty on all illegal immigrants.
Parents of anychild born in the US must be US Citizens or Legal Documented immigrants.
Deportation cost and any medical or housing costs will be charged to the person Home Country.
All legal immigrants must check in with the local court house where they are living every 6 months or when they move, they must check in within 30 days otherwise deportation procedings will commence.
If US Citizenship is desired, this will not be a problem. The cost of freedom is to high to just give our citizenship away.
Sorry if you misinterpreted my implication. That isn't an accurate reading of my point, which is that native americans have prospered under free trade.
So instead of free trade, america should adopt your ideal model of international economics and quality of life - North Korea?
but hard-working people who are seeking better lives for their families .................
besides raping children and sodomizing nuns I mean!!
I wish someone would have asked the Bishop what percentage of Guatemala's population should be allowed to immigrate here unimpeded. Then we might have a better idea of his unstated agenda.
In other words, free trade will create tension between the industrialists and the proletariat, leading to the collapse of capitalism. Where have I heard that before? [scratching chin]
"At the forum called "China's Influence on Future of Mexico" held in Monterrey, a city in the north of Mexico, the ambassador disclosed that China had expressed its hope to import oil from Mexico. Mexico is not producing oil enough to export to China. But the National Oil Company of Mexico is considering increasing its oil output to meet the needs."
"So instead of free trade, america should adopt your ideal model of international economics and quality of life - North Korea?"
I see by your reference to North Korea you are trying to place anyone who disagrees with you on a par with the commies. What liberal, Delphi method, think-tank were you trained in? Why did you copy Dane on this? Were you hoping to get one of your friends to help pile on? We don't have free trade now. So-called free trade is killing us because it is balanced in favor of other nations.
You are not an American are you?
What is your point? Oil is totally fungible. Once it is on the market it can be sold to anybody. There is one world wide supply and one world wide demand. A lot of our oil produced in Prudhoe Bay ends up in Japan. We have no particular claim to being the exclusive market for Mexican oil and the Mexicans would be fools to not sell oil to whomsoever will pay the most for it.
"Point of fact: Crossing a border without permission and not immediately consigning oneself for review is an administrative misdemeanor, not a felony, unless there was already a misdemeanor conviction for same."
So it's OK to jump the border, illegally obtain a false ID (Felony ID theft), misuse of a SSN, obtain a driver's license with falsified identification, drive with no insurance, utilize state and federal services not entitled to receive, use private services without paying.
I find it ironic that when Jorge Bush was governor of Texas he thought the problem with illegals was important enough to petition the Clinton Administration to recoup expenses by the state for enforcing federal laws relating to illegal aliens. Why the change? It's apparent that Bush is as crooked as Clinton. How much is the pay-off? It's obvious that Bush has to kiss the arse of Big Business.
" And lose the "Open Border Buddies" ad hominems, please. There are no open border advocates here."
Now there's a laugh!!!!!!!!
I don't have to do that - I think the readers can already make that connection based on your comments. I'm simply saying if you don't like the free trade model, do you suggest we adopt the North Korean model of trade and lifestyle?
[[Please do me the favor of not replying to any of my posts in the future because I have no further interest in conversing with you.]]
Jack,
This guy is a baiter as you well know. Evidence refutes liberalism and when they can no longer defend the indefensible, they resort to name calling and insinuations of racism. You cleaned his clock and exposed him at the same time so not much more he can do. Good work!
I doubt you will see an answer. One trait shared by all of our resident FOQNA loons is an aversion to any question about citizenship or national loyalties. If you show any signs of being a loyal American, especially if you believe in American sovereignty, the protection of our borders and the preservation of American culture, customs and language, you will be called a racist. When they start the race baiting, that means you have won the debate.
It is a despicable little hyena pack that always puts America last.
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