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Cochise officials investigating 2 Minutemen
Arizona Daily Star ^

Posted on 04/07/2005 5:32:55 AM PDT by Kokojmudd

Illegal entrant taped holding 'caught' T-shirt By Michael Marizco ARIZONA DAILY STAR

PALOMINAS - Cochise County officials said they are investigating two Minuteman volunteers after an illegal entrant complained Wednesday to authorities that he was held against his will.

One of the men paid the illegal entrant $20 and gave him a T-shirt to hold up while he filmed the encounter. The T-shirt read: "Bryan Barton Caught an Illegal Alien and all I got was this T-shirt," said Carol Capas, spokeswoman for the Cochise County Sheriff's Department.

It's the first encounter where an illegal entrant has filed a complaint against Minuteman Project volunteers since the monthlong controversial protest started Friday. Volunteers have gathered in Southern Arizona to protest what they said is the federal government's inability to control the border.

Critics said the encounter is the first sign that the Minuteman Project is a "sham" meant to humiliate illegal entrants.

The incident started Wednesday afternoon when Barton, 24, and a second Minuteman volunteer encountered the illegal entrant on Arizona 92 near Palominas, Capas said.

Barton said he gave the man the T-shirt and $20 plus food and water. Then he filmed the man holding up the T-shirt.

The volunteers then called the Border Patrol, which sent agents to pick up the entrant. Once in custody, the entrant complained about being held by the volunteers.

"It was supposed to be funny," Barton said about the encounter.

Cochise County Sheriff Larry Dever didn't think so.

"We have no time or patience for anyone attempting to turn this situation into a three-ring circus," he said.

The Cochise County Attorney's Office is also investigating the complaint.

Barton, who is running for Congress in San Diego on the Republican ticket, said he's not worried about charges being filed and that he never held the man against his will.

He said deputies seized the video for evidence. No arrests have been made in the incident.

"This shows what we've been saying all along," said Jennifer Allen, director of the Border Action Network.

"It was nothing but a media sham to mislead the public," she said. "Clearly they misrepresented the situation. They misrepresented themselves."

Minuteman Project organizers Chris Simcox and James Gilchrist could not be reached for comment Wednesday.

● Contact Michael Marizco at 573-4213 or mmarizco@azstarnet.com.


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To: Ben Ficklin
I ain't your "mezcan", look it up yourself.

No. Yer' my beyotch. You made the claim, you back it up.

141 posted on 04/07/2005 8:40:27 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Sooner or later, you have to stand your ground. Whether anyone else does or not. - Michael Badnarik)
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To: Dead Corpse
Asshat. "Tards" like you would leave our borders wide open and undefended. Even against Al Queda. Take your BS back to DU where you belong.

There is no call for that kind of response; the longer people see it the better.

142 posted on 04/07/2005 8:42:09 AM PDT by harrowup (Just naturally perfect and humble of course)
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To: Ben Ficklin
You advocate increasing the quota of H2B visas to 7-8 million?

I am one of those people that post on a number of threads about illegal aliens ... you know, the sort of person you derided earlier as being closeted racists and 'gun them down' sorts hiding behind a patina of respectability ...

I have said all along that if existing visa programs had been managed correctly to account for known labor needs, then we would not have an illegal alien situation in this country. I suspect that most anyone who has truly thought about the situation would feel the same. The government is talking about "immigration reform" and has ideas about passing more laws when the situation we are in is one where they have failed to manage and enforce existing law. The government has found a way, as is often the case, to grow and gain power from its own failures.

Now that we have the illegal alien problem (rampant illegality tolerated by employers, vast people/drug smuggling rings, document forgery and identity theft industries to support the illegals, etc.) simply increasing the existing H2.x plan now would amount to an amnesty. Amnesty will be a magnet for more illegals and more illegality.

The volunteers of the MMP are in a position where they can do a million things right, and get very little positive response from the attention they bring to the problem. But if one thing goes wrong, anything at all caused by anyone, there will be many, like you, who will broad brush anyone supportive of the MMP as being closet racists. They are in (practically) a no-win situation.

143 posted on 04/07/2005 8:42:23 AM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: harrowup

People already know where criminal alien lobbyists like you are coming from.


144 posted on 04/07/2005 8:44:15 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Sooner or later, you have to stand your ground. Whether anyone else does or not. - Michael Badnarik)
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To: Dead Corpse; Travis McGee; odoso
Odoso refuted saying his post used the word "murder". Are you saying he lied?

I guess he just meant to wound them with a knee capping shot?

Of course he is backtracking as fast as his little tail can wiggle, unlike your pal Travis who tells one lie and moves on to another. That is why Travis remains and odoso will soon be history...as will you.

145 posted on 04/07/2005 8:45:40 AM PDT by harrowup (Just naturally perfect and humble of course)
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To: Dead Corpse
No, the problem is that you are getting cold feet and are trying to back out.

You saw the trap I laid for you.

I doubt that you actually saw the trap, one of yor buddies freepmailed you and warned you.

146 posted on 04/07/2005 8:45:45 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: ClintonBeGone
"And how does Odoso's call for murder fit in your equation?"

I've not called for murder. I never once mentioned the word murder - You are the one who keeps bringing up Murder. Perhaps you are one, a murderer.

Fortunately for you, America tolerates the intolerable.
We already know you to be unpatriotic, a liar and a racist. You cannot be trusted to speak the truth; therefore, you are of no consequence.
147 posted on 04/07/2005 8:47:41 AM PDT by odoso (Millions for charity, but not one penny for tribute!)
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To: spodefly
Your 'leaders' Slimpox and Gilfish said it is all just a dog and pony show so what are you worried about?

Anyone with both an objective and non-racist mind already knows what this is about.

148 posted on 04/07/2005 8:48:41 AM PDT by harrowup (Just naturally perfect and humble of course)
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To: harrowup; odoso

You think that's bad, here is a little nugget I received from our pal who advocates murder. I have edited the F word so not to offend Dead Corpse.

"Re: Cochise officials investigating 2 Minutemen
From odoso | 04/07/2005 9:50:16 AM EDT read

Oh, and by the way... F**k you asshole"


149 posted on 04/07/2005 8:48:44 AM PDT by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: ClintonBeGone

"Oh, and by the way... F**k you asshole"

Add me to the list!


150 posted on 04/07/2005 8:50:22 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: Ben Ficklin
Er... no. Your misrepresentation of Rep. Tancredo's plan was laughable from the start. Check your sources next time.

So, how many illegals do you employ?

151 posted on 04/07/2005 8:50:59 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Sooner or later, you have to stand your ground. Whether anyone else does or not. - Michael Badnarik)
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To: dalereed

You're not worthy :)


152 posted on 04/07/2005 8:51:12 AM PDT by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: odoso
I've not called for murder. I never once mentioned the word murder -

You twice mentioned that different individuals should be shot dead.

What do you call that?

153 posted on 04/07/2005 8:52:53 AM PDT by harrowup (Just naturally perfect and humble of course)
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To: Ben Ficklin; harrowup; ClintonBeGone

I knew all it would take for a feeding frenzy among the you 3 would be any incident at all, even one perpetrated by a glory-seeking asshole known for such antics. No matter the care that the MMP has taken to avoid exactly this sort of incident. You just want a reason to broad brush anyone and everyone that doesn't lay down and take it while 10 million illegals create a culture of lawlessness in this country.

You have more in common with the clueless ACLU types, watching the MMP volunteers, while 10 million illegals and their advocacy groups corrupt the rule of law, engorge the federal system on its on failure, and villify anyone willing to stand up and fight back against it.


154 posted on 04/07/2005 8:54:23 AM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: ClintonBeGone
F*ck you too pal...
155 posted on 04/07/2005 8:55:08 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Sooner or later, you have to stand your ground. Whether anyone else does or not. - Michael Badnarik)
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To: harrowup
What do you call that?

For criminal trespass and invasion? Self Defense.

156 posted on 04/07/2005 8:56:22 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Sooner or later, you have to stand your ground. Whether anyone else does or not. - Michael Badnarik)
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To: spodefly; Ben Ficklin; harrowup
I knew all it would take for a feeding frenzy among the you 3 would be any incident at all, even one perpetrated by a glory-seeking asshole known for such antics. No matter the care that the MMP has taken to avoid exactly this sort of incident.

So you're saying that the MMK's knew this gentleman was a glory seeker, yet according to the article, he was made an organizer. How can we expect the MMK's to protect our border if they can't even protect their own perimeter against guys like this?

157 posted on 04/07/2005 8:57:45 AM PDT by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: spodefly
It all depends on what the meaning of the word amnesty is.

Funny thing, when Senator Kennedy uses the phrase "earned legaliztion", I know exactly what he is talking about.

Your use of semantics and rhetoric make you incomprehensible.

158 posted on 04/07/2005 8:58:15 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: harrowup; odoso
What do you call that?

I call it odoso's best immitation of Bill Clinton.

159 posted on 04/07/2005 8:58:59 AM PDT by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: harrowup

Show me where I have said I have any leaders.

Are you saying that your post was an "an objective and non-racist" response to my post in 143?

I don't appreciate the smear. I don't appreciate the obvious baiting.

But that is all you have, isn't it?


160 posted on 04/07/2005 8:59:16 AM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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