Marijuana Lobby Grows in Sophistication (After you smoke a joint, I do Too!)

FOX News ^ | Friday, January 28, 2005 | By Kelley Beaucar Vlahos

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WASHINGTON — Pot. Cannabis. Hemp. Weed. Grass.

The herb takes many names. But in the nation’s capital, where the marijuana lobby (search) was once the recreational diversion of Playboy Magazine's Hugh Hefner, pro-pot special interest groups have crystallized the divergent issues behind the plant and gained a seemingly unified voice.

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"It’s a no-brainer. It makes no sense putting old and sick folks in jail for an herb that makes them feel better," said Bruce Mirken, spokesman for the Marijuana Policy Project (search), which was established in 1995 by Rob Kampia, a former mainstay at the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws, the first pro-pot lobby in Washington, D.C.

[TigersEye]

That's interesting. I know about Sinsemilla (Spanish for 'without seeds'). Other than spacing I don't know much about fiber and seed production techniques. At any rate, my previous post was not really meant as a rebuttal but a buttress. Washington knew 'rope.'

Hemp was the single most important commodity of the day to nations with aspirations of independence and power. Even in WWII it was vital to the war effort thus the temporary suspension of the ban on growing it and a robust government campaign to get farmers growing it. The military, particularly the Navy, used it by the millions of tons even without the need for sails. All things you probably know judging from your posts. ; )

[mugs99]

I think it is more likely that he grew a sativa strain. Indica isn't native to this hemisphere

He grew both. Our native Sativa is better for producing hemp, but Indica is more potent. That's why he kept the Indica at Do. He didn't want cross pollination. That would lessen the potency of the Indica.

The British controlled the Indica source so Indica was only available through authorized British dealers, and they would not provide seed. That's why Thomas Jefferson smuggled Indica seeds from China.
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[Freebird Forever]

He grew both. ... That's why Thomas Jefferson smuggled Indica seeds from China.

Please provide evidence to substantiate those comments.

[robertpaulsen]

Ah. Specified, but not explicit.

I think that covers it.

[robertpaulsen]

"Like the man said, I'd like to see the supporting data."

Nah. I'm not going to waste my time with you like I did with the University of Alaska study.

Feel free, however, to refute my claim with your data.

[mugs99]

At any rate, my previous post was not really meant as a rebuttal but a buttress.

I didn't take it as a rebuttal...Just adding to your knowledge. We are a nation founded by pot smokers. That is an undeniable part of our history. When you read letters and other writings from those days you will see references to muggle and muggie. Local lingo of the times...Pot!

You could order a clay pipe packed with Indica at every tavern in early America. "Gimme a muggie"!
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[Freebird Forever]

Alcohol clouds reason as does everything else you listed...except cannabis.

Mega BS

Skunk #1, Super Skunk, Hindu Kush, Afghani #1 and other predominately indica strains will disrupt the ability to think critically. That's why Dean Lattimer, a senior editor of High Times, argued against indica and in favor of sativa strains over 25 years ago.

The marketplace chose not to follow his advice. And as a result, most heads now smoke to get stupid rather than to get high .... just the way the globalists want it.

There's more than one way to dumb down America.

[mugs99]

Get real!
This isn't some kind of hidden secret. Jefferson took delivery of the Indica seed from China while envoy to France. He smuggled them back to the states at great personal risk. Any student of American history knows this. Do your homework and learn the history of our country. Your ignorance is detrimental to our freedom!
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[Freebird Forever]

This isn't some kind of hidden secret

Then support your comments with a reference.

Do your homework and learn the history of our country.

Give me a reference and I'll read it for myself.

Your ignorance is detrimental to our freedom!

As is deceit. Give me a reason to believe what you wrote.

[Protagoras]

Nah. I'm not going to waste my time with you like I did with the University of Alaska study. Feel free, however, to refute my claim with your data.

Everyone who ever smoked pot lived twice as long as they would have if they didn't smoke it.

I can't be bothered to provide supporting data, but feel free to refute my claim with your data.

[justshutupandtakeit]

There is nothing wrong with asking for proof of this claim.
It is not something discussed in biographies nor general history so there is no point in getting your tailfeathers all ruffled because someone indicates ignorance of this "fact."

BTW I have seen the GW quote many times but NEVER heard anything like that about Jefferson. NOR any other of those who won our independence. Even a source like "A Stoner's View of American History" would be of interest.

[TigersEye]

There's a difference between critical thought and reason. Alcohol clouds reason, cannabis does not.

[planekT]

We can end this debate right now.

Medical uses for Alcohol = 0
Medical uses for Marijuana = a few

Addictive properties:

alcohol: yes
marijuana: no

All the people who died from an overdose of alcohol last year. Plenty.

All the people who ever died from an overdose of marijuana.
None.

Now, raise your hand if you think alcohol should be legal (and it is).

Raise your hand if you think marijuana should be illegal.

If you raised your hand both times, you are an idiot.

[justshutupandtakeit]

Nothing makes one as stupid as alcohol.

[TigersEye]

Medical uses for Alcohol = 0

This part of your post is false.

[houeto]

Have you ever seen a girl flip out when her smoking boyfriend decides to go for a drive?

Shirley ewe gest...

[TigersEye]

LOL Maybe he was going to get into an Esuvee! ;^)

[houeto]

What little limp-wristed pro-drug propaganda remains out there, I can certainly handle in a debate.

Sir, with all due respect, your legacy failed you miserably this round.

[houeto]

LOL Maybe he was going to get into an Esuvee! ;^)

LMAO!!!

[Ken H]

It's the intent, Ken H.

Yes, the intent being to "relax" with alcohol, ie, to get high.