***Not until you claim it, it does you no good, it remains in the bank. (real hard to understand)***
Yes, I understand. The is in an account with my name, but it not really mine until I withdrawl it. Of course, this is not how banks work at all. If the money is in my account, then it is mine. I don't have to claim it.
But, I guess that you can have your bank account and the money that is not really yours until you withrawal it. BTW, can I go get the money that is in your account but not really yours? I could do some things with it.
***No requirement to accept the gift, not even believing that it is there?***
Yes, you are correct that I am not required to accept the gift and no you are wrong about the belief. I said that all I have to do is enjoy the gift. In order to actually enjoy the gift, you have to know that it is there.
It is not really hard.
I enjoy my salvation, the salvation that the Father elected me to, the Son secured for me with his Penal Substitutionary Atonement, and that the Holy Spirit communicated to me. I don't believe that it is there in order to make it real. That sounds kinda mystic.
I believe that I am saved. I don't believe in order to get saved. All I have to do is enjoy the gift and glorify the giver.
Of course, the funny thing here is that your analogy doesn't exist anywhere, especially not in a real bank. My analogy exits both in the Bible and used to be the way debtors prison worked in England.
In the service of the Lord,
Christian.
The money isn't in your account, it is a account that you have been given access to, but you have to claim it.
But, I guess that you can have your bank account and the money that is not really yours until you withrawal it. BTW, can I go get the money that is in your account but not really yours? I could do some things with it.
Not unless you came and claimed it you couldn't.
***No requirement to accept the gift, not even believing that it is there?*** Yes, you are correct that I am not required to accept the gift and no you are wrong about the belief. I said that all I have to do is enjoy the gift. In order to actually enjoy the gift, you have to know that it is there.
Now, that is quite amazing.
You know its there-how?
It is not really hard. I enjoy my salvation, the salvation that the Father elected me to, the Son secured for me with his Penal Substitutionary Atonement, and that the Holy Spirit communicated to me. I don't believe that it is there in order to make it real. That sounds kinda mystic. I believe that I am saved. I don't believe in order to get saved. All I have to do is enjoy the gift and glorify the giver.
I don't believe in order to get saved.
You have to believe to get saved, believe in the Person and Work of the saviour.
Of course, the funny thing here is that your analogy doesn't exist anywhere, especially not in a real bank. My analogy exits both in the Bible and used to be the way debtors prison worked in England.
Having the debt paid still did not make the debtor a rich man.
To get to heaven you need more then to have your sins forgiven, you need God's righteousness, which only comes by accepting the free gift of salvation. (Jn.1:12)