[Corin Stormhands]

I'm not goofing around with words Dr. E. Think about what I said.

"Grace through faith"

"Grace" AND "faith" are in that sentence.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

I'm not goofing around with words Dr. E.

No, I was saying I thought you said I was goofing around with words when you said "but you knew that" which implies I'm posting one thing, but meaning another.

Aaaaanyway, "grace through faith" is very different from "grace and faith."

Just look at the differences between Arminians and Calvinists. That's the difference.

If Paul had wanted to say "grace and faith," that's what he would have written.

But the concepts of God saving through His will alone (grace) and of God giving man the evidence of his salvation (faith) are what the Reformers died for.