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To: 4ConservativeJustices
I understand you continue painting a complete distortion of Civil War history.

From the statements you typed your indication is South Carolina, a state producing vast amount of cotton & other agricultural crops, even with all the forced 'free' labour, earning huge profits for the South's upper crust, you still don't believe S.C. & the other rebel states should have paid their fair share of taxes. That's really something else. It equals free slavery profits and war to maintain the Southern empire.

All this crap about Lincoln wanting a civil war, ripping the nation in two? Additional Neo-Confed-P/C. Do you read directly off of 'Tommy Delarenzoos' how-to-be-a rebel script, or are the lies all memorized

"All admit that an ultimate dissolution of the Union is inevitable, and we believe the crisis is not far off. Then let it come now; the better for the South that it should be today; she cannot afford to wait.----Charleston Mercury, l860

Well, well what di that Charleston Mercury newspaper say in 1860? .."the better for the South that it should be today; she cannot afford to wait."

"Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its cornerstone rests upon the great truth that the Negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery--subordination to the superior race--is his natural and normal condition." -----Alexander Stephens of Georgia, 1861

You and the rest of the rebels thinks everyone just got off the boat, right?...wrong! "The Constitution makes no provision for secession.... Constitutionally, there can be no such thing as secession of a State from the Union. But it does not follow that because a State cannot secede constitutionally, it is obliged under all circumstances to remain in the Union"-------Dubuque Herald, 1860

The Southern political aristocracy had a 'good life' as they used slave labour to build roads, forts, grow & harvest crops & even raise the children of the slave master. This same aristocracy wanted expansion of their Cotton Empire and were more than willing to provoke sedition & civil war to get their way.

Edwin Ruffin, the white-haired South Carolinian madmen & bigot made sure war happened. Ruffin a prime 'hero' of today's Neo-Confeds killed himself when his slave kingdom was defeated. Some 'hero' you guys follow.

You & the other Jr-Confeds posting the same spins wanted the Confederates to defeat the United States government and continue their cotton slave based empire.

4,527 posted on 04/07/2005 3:12:45 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free!)
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To: M. Espinola
I understand you continue painting a complete distortion of Civil War history.

Prove the alleged distortion.

... you still don't believe S.C. & the other rebel states should have paid their fair share of taxes.

Not true. The state seceded from the voluntary federal union. As such, she was not obligated to send further revenues to Washington.

All this crap about Lincoln wanting a civil war, ripping the nation in two? Additional Neo-Confed-P/C. Do you read directly off of 'Tommy Delarenzoos' how-to-be-a rebel script, or are the lies all memorized

You can't refute Lincoln's speech, so this is your rebuttal? Lincoln said it, not me.

"All admit that ... the better for the South that it should be today ... Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea ... The Constitution makes no provision for secession

I'm underwhelmed - Three newspapers articles and a misguided politician. The two Southern newspapers stated what Northern newspapers stated in 1814 and 1861, Stephens was wrong, and the Dubuque paper said, 'it does not follow that because a State cannot secede constitutionally, it is obliged under all circumstances to remain in the Union'.

The Southern political aristocracy had a 'good life' as they used slave labour to build roads, forts, grow & harvest crops & even raise the children of the slave master.

Just as was practiced legally by Yankees.

This same aristocracy wanted expansion of their Cotton Empire and were more than willing to provoke sedition & civil war to get their way.

Check your facts, the Supreme Court ruled in favour of the Southern states, it was the Northern aristocracy that wanted a lily-white west. There were only a handful of blacks in the Territories, the same that you steadfastly insist were the target of millions of Southerners. Judging by Lincoln's speech quoted above, it was he that provoked a war to get his way the money.

Edwin Ruffin, the white-haired South Carolinian madmen & bigot made sure war happened. Ruffin a prime 'hero' of today's Neo-Confeds killed himself when his slave kingdom was defeated. Some 'hero' you guys follow.

Check again. Those that I admire and have seen admired are men like Stonewall and Lee, General Stand Watie, even some on your side, for remaining gentlemen even in times of duress.

You & the other Jr-Confeds posting the same spins wanted the Confederates to defeat the United States government and continue their cotton slave based empire.

You're projecting again. No one yearns for a continuation of slavery which WAS STILL LEGAL IN THE NORTH when the Confederate states seceded - our ancestors seceded to distance themselves from folks like you - sanctimonious hypocrites pitching hissy-fits when others fail to do your bidding.

I honestly don't know what your problem is. When when placed Confederate flags in the local cemeteries, no blacks derided us, no protesters demanded we stop. One cemetery was downtown in the old section of town - we visited the grave sites of blacks and whites. While we placed our flags the cemetery was surrounded by blacks, all gentlemanly in their manner, no derisive comments or insults were thrown our way; on the contrary, they were reverent while we performed our duties. We honoured their ancestors as well as ours.

4,529 posted on 04/07/2005 4:55:40 PM PDT by 4CJ (Good-bye Henry LeeII. Rest well my FRiend. Good-bye Terri. We'll miss you both.)
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To: M. Espinola
Let's cut to the chase, Espinola.

Who's paying you to post this garbage? To come on here and play troll day after day, night after night, not even worrying about whether what you're posting makes sense, but just spewing venom and spitting defiance against anyone who disagrees with the South-bashing agenda?

Who put you up to this?

Who wants the Southerners run off of FR?

Who wants conservatives to stay locked in the attic until election day?

Who's your daddy, troll?

4,558 posted on 04/08/2005 12:39:58 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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