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To: Colonel Kangaroo
If that's not a common statement from the defenders of the Confederacy please correct me.

You stand corrected. How ya doin', Wlat?

Meanwhile, if you think someone posted that sentiment, run it down and give us a link. Sure you haven't misunderstood something? Nuance can be so tricky, especially when you don't reference the original post.....Wlat.

Nice of you to bust loose and drop by. But get a towel, willya?

2,926 posted on 02/26/2005 3:15:20 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: lentulusgracchus
Meanwhile, if you think someone posted that sentiment, run it down and give us a link. Sure you haven't misunderstood something? Nuance can be so tricky, especially when you don't reference the original post.....Wlat.

Actually I was asking the question for information and not as accusation. But I stand the first point which I was trying to make and must have been misunderstood due to my imprecise grammar-Confederate apologists IN THE 1860s defended slavery on the basis that their slaves were better off than Northern factory workers. On that same basis the slavers of pre-1865 should have been happy to spend a year in that blissful condition that they blessed the black population of South for so many years.

Thankfully for the Deep South, the humane attitude of the great Abraham Lincoln still carried enough weight to reduce the burden of Reconstruction. But if the worst day for the Deep South was when the South Carolina hotheads seceded, the second worst day for Dixie was when Booth murdered the South's greatest friend in Washington.

2,935 posted on 02/27/2005 3:54:25 AM PST by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: lentulusgracchus
Here the mindset I was talking about. From the Slavery in America website:

"Slavery As It Exists In America. Slavery As It Exists In England." 1851. This image presents a defense of slavery as a way of life superior to the life of the working poor of industrial England. In the first scene enslaved blacks dance and play, observed by four white men--two Southerners and two Northerners. The southern gentleman comments to the Northerner: "It is a general thing, some few exceptions, after mine have done a certain amount of labor, which they finish by 4 or 5 P.M., I allow them to enjoy themselves in any reasonable way." Contrast this to the second scene, which takes place at a British textile factory. Notice the conversaton between two barefoot youths: "I say Bill, I am going to run away from the Factory, and go to the Coal Mines where they have to work only 14 hours a Day instead of 17 as you do here." Behind them, an impoverished mother comments about life in the factory: "Oh Dear! what wretched Slaves, this Factory Life makes me & my children." The idea that slaves enjoyed a higher standard of living compared to industrial workers in nothern U. S. and British cities, meaning better diets and better working conditions, was commonly argued in defense of slavery. In modern times, some historians have also argued that slave diets, working conditions, housing, and such might have exceeded the living standards of the urban poor in the North. For southern apologists for slavery, the wage slavery of England and the northern states was worse than actual slavery because employers felt no responsibility for the welfare of their "wage slaves." Library of Congress.

http://www.slaveryinamerica.org/scripts/sia/gallery.cgi?collection=politicsdefense

2,936 posted on 02/27/2005 4:04:34 AM PST by Colonel Kangaroo
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