[M. Espinola]

On slavery "My tendency is to defend the right, and to defend the right's owners.." With this line of thinking if you were all of a sudden subject to slavery, you would still defend the right of the slave 'owner' as being "legal"?.

'Overall, the engraved images show the slaves as happy, well-treated, and healthy workers in an “unnatural” state of bliss. We do not see hardships, such as slaves being whipped. These images of slavery by engravers of that period are similar to the work of present day photo–journalists, except the positive slave images were used as propaganda. They were designed to actively affirm and aggressively promote the slave labor system of their plantation economy.'>

In 1865 any known pro-slaver should be forced into the same hell they dished out, for at least one year, and then, maybe post-Civil War problems in the South would have been reversed.

..."for these New England-trained fanatics.. as the exterminators of the Pequod, Wampanoag, and Narragansett Indians..."

Such as whom? Roger Williams? Who in 1635 spent three months living with local Indians after being fully excepted by the Indians. 'In 1636, he and a number of followers established the settlement of Providence on Narragansett Bay, a colony notable for the fact that the Indians were paid for the title to their lands.' These people were real 'fanatics'? Pro-slavers each and every one ..Right?

The hard-core neo-confederates would also hate the fact these New England fanatics, under Williams' influence, Rhode Island became a haven for those who suffered from religious persecution, including Jews and Quakers.

'On October 28th, 1646, Reverend John Eliot preached his first sermon to Native Americans in their own language in the wigwam of Waban who became the first convert of his tribe in Nonantum (near Newton, Massachusetts).' Another New England fanatic correct?

'Eventually Christian Indian Towns were located in Nantucket, Martha's Vineyard, New Plymouth, New Norwich (Connecticut Colony), and the following in Massachusetts Colony known as the Old Praying Indian Towns: Wamesit (Chelmsford), Nashobah (Littleton), Okkokonimesit (Marlborough), Hassannamesit (Grafton), Makunkokoag (Hopkinton), Natick (Natick), and Punkapog or Pakomit (Stoughton).'

More worthless money depicting something a few in here would love to see alive & well in 2005, but refuse to admit.

Imitation paper currency

[rustbucket]

I suggest to bone up on King Philip's War. New England's King Philip's War

The outcome of King Philip’s War was devastating to the traditional way of life for Native People in New England. Hundreds of Natives who fought with Philip were sold into slavery abroad. Others, especially women and children, were forced to become servants locally.

Since the Massachusetts colonists eliminated most of the Indians in New England in King Philip's War or put them into slavery, perhaps the Indian on the flag of Massachusetts state flag should have a ball and chain around his leg.

[fortheDeclaration]

Amen to your post!

[rustbucket]

The hard-core neo-confederates would also hate the fact these New England fanatics, under Williams' influence, Rhode Island became a haven for those who suffered from religious persecution, including Jews and Quakers.

Name one.

[lentulusgracchus]

In 1865 any known pro-slaver should be forced into the same hell they dished out, for at least one year, and then, maybe post-Civil War problems in the South would have been reversed.

Good example of moralizing vindictiveness. And what meat do you eat, that you think you're entitled to judge these people like that?

And since we're talking about moralizing......and hypocrisy.....

Another New England fanatic correct?

Well, try here, you'll find your New England Fanatics. Hope you like liberal authors; Howard Zinn liberal enough for you? Allow the whole document to load before searching (this will take a little while -- they put the whole book up), then search for keys like "Pequot" and "1637", the year in which the Massachusetts Bay Colony instigated the massacre of 600 Pequots.

Bon appetit!

[Colonel Kangaroo]

In 1865 any known pro-slaver should be forced into the same hell they dished out, for at least one year, and then, maybe post-Civil War problems in the South would have been reversed.

You think that would be punishment? From what I've read from the Confederate apologists for slavery in the 1860s. the slaves were happy and contented, better off than they would be free. I'd think the pro-slavers of 1865 would be happy to enter into such a blessed state as slavery.