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Confederate States Of America (2005)
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Posted on 12/31/2004 2:21:30 PM PST by Caipirabob

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To: M. Espinola

Thanks. The followers of Tommy Delusional are cultists, if you think about it.


4,701 posted on 04/10/2005 1:38:12 AM PDT by capitan_refugio
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To: capitan_refugio
There is a commonality among cultists, to lie, for the greater 'cause'. Mr. 'Gopcapitalist' has stacked up enough colossal lies in here, not only concerning historical events & causes, but directed at you, myself & countless others on FR, to make even 'Tommy' blush, and that is one gargantuan endevour! :)
4,702 posted on 04/10/2005 1:49:47 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free!)
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To: GOPcapitalist
Unlike the bandwidth theivery you commit on a daily basis, simply increasing the font size by one unit for a single post is neither illegal nor an abuse of all reasonable posting protocol (as well as common netiquette).

As a matter of fact, the boldened font you used in the post he's complaining about is the default font for Salon's "TableTalk" BB.

Not that that means anything, but I thought that invoking a liberal website's practice ought to get him to back up a little. Awe and deference, don't you know.

4,703 posted on 04/10/2005 2:30:12 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: stand watie
did you get PROMOTED, Captain????

Yeah, he used to be somebody else.

4,704 posted on 04/10/2005 2:31:24 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: GOPcapitalist; stainlessbanner; 4ConservativeJustices; lentulusgracchus
He thinks Lynyrd Skynyrd is "hippie drug music"

WWWD - What would Willie do?


4,705 posted on 04/10/2005 3:59:23 AM PDT by Gianni
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To: capitan_refugio
nolu chan used to do that too, while he was still here.

Post a single lie from nolu chan. I have several from you.

4,706 posted on 04/10/2005 4:19:53 AM PDT by Gianni
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To: capitan_refugio; rustbucket; GOPcapitalist; lentulusgracchus; stainlessbanner
He is sensitive about matters Texan, and the manifest cowardliness of the Texans in that campaign are a sore point with him.

Your recollection of events doesn't pass muster. The way I recall it, There was a dicsussion concerning the lack of success of the Union army in Texas; probably initiated by either rustbucket or GOPcapitalist. You responded with a list of what you considered considerable Union victories, one of which was the capture of Ft Jefferson Davis.

GOPcapitalist pointed out to you that Ft Davis was abandoned by the confederates, and that the Union forces had only to deal with indian raiders during the occupation, and you proceeded to engage in a symantics debate about the word 'capture.'

Sound about right to anyone else?

4,707 posted on 04/10/2005 4:34:52 AM PDT by Gianni
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To: capitan_refugio
I guess the boss didn't like his site being polluted by southern racists.

And there goes another capitan-ism.

Enlighten us, california-boy... what race is nolu chan?

For the life of me, I can't figure out why slurs like that are allowed to go unchecked from you, Espinola, mac, Partisan, and "the gang." You and your buddies spend more time bashing Americans and conservatives than the exiled brigade commander could have dreamed.

There is a growing rift in the Republican party between the religious and small-government conservatives and the "power at any cost so long as we're in charge" folks. You, Partisan, and Espinola are pounding at that wedge with a sledgehammer with every accusation of racism, every time you slur us as rednecks, every time you take a verbal dump on our confederate grandfathers.

If you'd like to discuss the war, the politics, or the politicians, that would be great. These threads used to be at least semi-civilized, and at one time were a great place for people to learn new 'stuff' about the war, the players, and our shared history. Since the arrival of you and Espinola, all of the reasoned Unionists have abandoned them, save Non-Sequitur, who still drops in from time to time. I used to like coming to the WBTS threads, picking up on whatever the hot topic was, and doing some outside reading to get up to speed or learn the unbiased truth. It's been months since that's happened, and nowadays when I click on the thread title, I expect to find nothing useful in the flamewar.

4,708 posted on 04/10/2005 5:01:16 AM PDT by Gianni
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To: Gianni
Post a single lie from nolu chan. I have several from you.

Inquiring minds want to know bump.

4,709 posted on 04/10/2005 6:33:32 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: capitan_refugio; Gianni; GOPcapitalist
The word, "captured," was used correctly. A common definition is "take control of" ...

Then I guess I captured parts of California in my trip out there last May. Please send me the tax you owe me.

On the other hand, maybe I shouldn't claim to have captured parts of California. You Californians would probably want me to pay off some of the energy bills you ran up during your attempts to repeal the law of supply and demand.

The credit for holding your feet to the fire over loose use of the language belongs to GOPcapitalist.

4,710 posted on 04/10/2005 7:33:15 AM PDT by rustbucket
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To: Gianni
I used to like coming to the WBTS threads, picking up on whatever the hot topic was, and doing some outside reading to get up to speed or learn the unbiased truth. It's been months since that's happened, and nowadays when I click on the thread title, I expect to find nothing useful in the flamewar.

Bump.

4,711 posted on 04/10/2005 7:45:38 AM PDT by rustbucket
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To: rustbucket; Gianni
Flamewar double-bump.

I can't remember the last time we discussed drawbacks of Lee's warfighting strategy, and the need for a unified command structure in the CSA. Or how Northern foodstuff distribution persisted and grew in the face of secession.

The last time we discussed trade, it was all about a corrupt war-profiteering scheme in the War Department and how Lincoln and Davis compromised principles to help political creatures make fat profits off organized smuggling through the lines: Davis because he was desperate, Lincoln because.......?

4,712 posted on 04/10/2005 8:31:20 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: Gianni
You, Partisan, and Espinola are pounding at that wedge with a sledgehammer with every accusation of racism, every time you slur us as rednecks, every time you take a verbal dump on our confederate grandfathers.

Thump-bump.

As the issues have unfolded and been reviewed by them, the Wlat Brigade show themselves to be coming from a position every more closely identifiable with neoliberalism. The chief difference between a neoconservative and a neoliberal being whether we should have a defense department, and whether liberals should try to learn something from the domestic policy failures of the 1950's.

It's getting harder to tell whether they're neoconservatives trying to drive Southern conservatives into an upstairs attic like Crazy Aunt Mary, where they can feed us table scraps and keep us under wraps so as not to embarrass them with their liberal neighbors, and then just wheel us to the polls on election day and bait us into voting a GOP straight ticket with a few down-ballot social initiatives, or whether they're neoliberals straining in the traces with their boy Slick Willie to split the GOP in two.

4,713 posted on 04/10/2005 8:47:30 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: capitan_refugio
The followers of Tommy Delusional are cultists....

Funny how projection works. Substitute the name of Harry Jaffa in your little jab, and you've got a much better tableau of cultishness to work with.

4,714 posted on 04/10/2005 8:56:15 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: capitan_refugio
But frankly, you don't have the cajones.

Yeah, right -- no this, no that, but plenty of the other. Nah, I don't think I will, bait-shop boy. What are you going to do about it? Call me more names? We know you have an unlimited hall pass on flames.

It doesn't take a rescript from the pope to find out what kind of guy we're posting to.

4,715 posted on 04/10/2005 9:20:54 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: M. Espinola
fine. right after you stop drinking the lincoln coven's KOOL AID & face FACTS that they were WAR CRIMINALS, RACISTS & cowards.

free dixie,sw

4,716 posted on 04/10/2005 9:45:14 AM PDT by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: capitan_refugio
far better than you & the unionist coven of HATERS, lamebrains & morons here on FR demonstrably are.

free dixie,sw

4,717 posted on 04/10/2005 9:46:26 AM PDT by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: Gianni
Sound about right to anyone else?

Indeed. It was a classic case of taking a historical event and embellishing it to make it something more than it really was, likely due to a chronic lie addiction. I also seem to recall it was claimed that the so-called battle of Fort Davis struck a great "symbolic" blow to Richmond since the fort's namesake was Jefferson Davis. In reality, Richmond never even heard about it and nobody in the entire confederate government even knew that the yankees had camped out there for a single night before abandoning the place until after the war. Yet again, his bizarre need to embellish the truth with falsehoods kicked in and now he's mad because he got caught.

4,718 posted on 04/10/2005 9:49:40 AM PDT by GOPcapitalist ("Marxism finds it easy to ally with Islamic zealotism" - Ludwig von Mises)
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To: capitan_refugio; GOPcapitalist; M. Espinola; Gianni; rustbucket
Your lies are easy to expose.

Really? Why don't you expose a couple, or better, post links to where you exposed and refuted them?

I remember the Fort Davis brouhaha -- I didn't post an opinion because I didn't have one, and because you guys know much more about it. But my memory serves up recollections of your insistence that the Texans showed cowardice -- you say stuff like that a lot -- and in short you displayed a great deal of hostile animus toward Texans generally on thin evidence.

No doubt the California columns faced considerable difficulties in operating far from any amenable bases; but you denied the same recognition to the Confederates operating in that theater, and insisted on trying to affix a badge of cowardly dishonor on them.

That's a pretty brash particularism to display in this forum, given the provenience of the couple living in the White House. Perhaps you're willing to give President Bush a pass, in consideration of his Yankee blood and New England education, and of the manorial ways of his family. But Laura Bush is 100% Texas girl, and there isn't an inch of her that is fake about anything. Yet you trash Texans with a ferocity approaching personal fetish.

Now, you can entertain any sort of crotchet you like, capitan, but when by the same token you deny other people the right to hold their own POV and try to belittle and even criminalize it as you and Rant-Boy Espinola habitually do with your rhetoric and his violent imagery of Southerners being killed in battle or dragged off to prison, then it's fair to ask whether you've got anyone's best interests at heart. You and Espinola have posted about enough of that "Reconstruction didn't go far enough/Get a rope" stuff.

Pounding on GOPcapitalist and trying to get him banned -- your and Espinola's garbage about "KIA's" is, like a burlesque danseuse's outfit, both tacky and revealing -- doesn't do anything for your POV or the website. It just exhibits a determination on your part to eliminate unassimilable POV's that can't be reconciled with your agenda of defending from the claims of history the author of the Civil War.

That this is the case can be shown by your lumping us all in together as The Enemy, notwithstanding that I have several important differences of opinion with these Southerners. That all disappears when you and Espinola begin your warmed-over William Lloyd Garrison act and begin trashing the Southern contingent over regional differences which you haven't been cautious enough to refrain from pointing out that you consider grossly revealing of Southern intellectual incapacity and cultural inferiority. You display your arraunt when you do, and you show up yourself more than the people you vilify.

4,719 posted on 04/10/2005 9:54:45 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: GOPcapitalist; M. Espinola
Referencing a desire for something to be "throughly crushed" and then grouping an individual into that something is indeed making violent personal threats.

Bump. It needed to be repeated.

This guy hits "abuse" on a photo of John Wilkes Booth taken in a studio, then posts imagery of Southerners being killed in battle.

4,720 posted on 04/10/2005 9:57:47 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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