[Land of the Irish]

That is not what Sinkspur said, nor did.

That's exactly what sinkspur said.

[dsc]

If someone said to me that some people seem to think that merely saying a prayer is going to move hearts and minds, but that to move hearts and minds, you have to move hearts and minds, I would take the plain meaning of his words to be that prayer is without effect, and only human effort can avail.