[and the horse you rode in on]

CRAP

The fact that some Darwinians believe some or all of these things has nothing to do with whether or not anyone else has to believe any of them to be a Darwinian.

In todays's context, as the article stated, Darwinism means a belief than man descended from animals without divine intervention, and that is believed by most educated people.

No one can first tell me what I believe and then tell me I am wrong. They must ask me what I believe and then try to convince me that is wrong.

[gore3000]

The fact that some Darwinians believe some or all of these things has nothing to do with whether or not anyone else has to believe any of them to be a Darwinian.

Well, that may be true, however, the above only shows the truth of the statement by one of the greatest intellectuals on FR - "evolution is whatever lie you want it to be" by f.christian.

[ALS]

Anyone know the difference between a lib attacking character as their only and immediate defense, and an evoloonist?

me neither

[Lurking Libertarian]

In todays's context, as the article stated, Darwinism means a belief than man descended from animals without divine intervention, and that is believed by most educated people.

I would re-phrase it "descended from animals through natural biological processes." The existence vel non of divine intervention is something science does not speak to, either to affirm or deny. I personally believe that humanity was created by God using natural forces, which He created knowing them to be sufficient to achieve His purposes.

[RobRoy]

>>In todays's context, as the article stated, Darwinism means a belief than man descended from animals without divine intervention, and that is believed by most educated people.<<

No, it's not. Maybe just those in your circles.

Of course, last week I heard a guy who said that everyone he knows is against war in Iraq. I guess it all depends on who you run around with.

[RobRoy]

>>No one can first tell me what I believe and then tell me I am wrong. They must ask me what I believe and then try to convince me that is wrong.<<

I didn't see your name in the article anywhere.