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The Hobbit Hole III - Journey to the Cross-roads!

Posted on 12/17/2002 7:32:02 AM PST by HairOfTheDog

Welcome to The Hobbit Hole!

Journey to the Cross-roads

The Two Towers Edition

Come on! Come in! -if you would like to have some seedcakes and a pint and relax a while. (If it is a special occasion, we still have a few bottles of the old wineyards left!)

Our first thread ( New Zealander builds Hobbit hole ) reached 4,100 posts, and we thought that was big. Our second thread (The New Hobbit Hole ) held us for over 48,000 posts, and we loved it dearly. We talked about moving to a new thread for the last 38,000 posts, but we are really slow to muster! Finally, the time has come. Tomorrow (at 12:01 am, to be precise!) The Two Towers comes out, and we start a new chapter.


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To: ksen
a mixed marriage

Unfortunately, this Lott-induced conservative group therapy session we're all having has touched on the topic. Andrew Sullivan was one of the earliest to come out against Lott. And since he supports gay marriage, the whole gay marriage vs. interracial marriage element came in to the debate. Sigh.

Looking at a Monday date for seeing TTT. Argh! But I'm taking my 10 year old this time. Just not the same to have to see it on video, and I would like him to have the opportunity to be blown away by a great movie in the theatres like I was by Star Wars and Raiders of the Lost Ark at his age.

901 posted on 12/19/2002 10:37:51 AM PST by Wordsmith
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To: HairOfTheDog
That smile is devastating, isn't it?

Did I say that out loud?!

The "Shall I get you a box" line was something else. I held my breath and actually whooshed a sigh of relief when Gimli laughed. It really does bring out how their friendship is developing, doesn't it?

Just like when good friends can call each other names and no one gets offended. :)

902 posted on 12/19/2002 10:37:59 AM PST by RMDupree
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To: carton253
'Cause I like the elves.

After what they did to poor Smeagol?

903 posted on 12/19/2002 10:38:29 AM PST by Overtaxed
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To: RMDupree
... I swear I could see Ian holding on to a saddlehorn under his robes. It was really quick, but since I was concentrating on seeing how he rode Shadowfax at liberty, I caught it.

Did anyone else see that?

I Didn't see a saddlehorn, I saw a cheater cord- white- and stirrups- ugh! I know it was the horse trainer standin that really did the riding scenes, and I could easily see that when Ian had to be on the horse there was something he could hold, like I said, I did see a white cord and stirrups- however, I cannot imagine that they would use a "horned" saddle since it was not supposed to show at all. I would think that there was a jockey saddle, training pad or circingle to provide the stirrups??

904 posted on 12/19/2002 10:39:37 AM PST by LinnieBeth
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To: ksen
*Bash!*

Where's the icon I earned, huh? :)

905 posted on 12/19/2002 10:39:40 AM PST by RMDupree
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To: RMDupree
You do realize that you are watching a movie, don't you? LOL!
906 posted on 12/19/2002 10:39:56 AM PST by carton253
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear; Rose in RoseBear; Wordsmith
That IS weird. How could somebody this inept have kept hold of power for so long? Is it merely that he had incumbency and seniority on his side?

I find it hard to believe that the other Republican senators didn't know that Lott could be this idiotic. If that's the case, then what does it say about the Pubbies that they allowed Lott to stay in power for so long?
907 posted on 12/19/2002 10:40:36 AM PST by ksen
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To: ksen

908 posted on 12/19/2002 10:40:37 AM PST by Overtaxed
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To: RMDupree
That smile is devastating, isn't it?

[thud!]

909 posted on 12/19/2002 10:41:27 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear
I wouldn't say Rose was "revolted" by his appearance on BET so much as she was amazed

Mrs. W picked up right away that nothing better illustrated TL's cluelessness about blacks then his bright idea that the way to placate them was to go on BET and chat up AA and how white Southerners are still getting over their racism. How can he be so clueless yet represent a state that's 30% black? It was just as patronizing as if he'd come out and said he'd invited Al and Maxine over for fried chicken and watermelon to make up for the misunderstanding.

910 posted on 12/19/2002 10:41:34 AM PST by Wordsmith
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To: Overtaxed
What? You don't like mushy face? hehehehehehee

You know, I tihnk they had to put on an in-your-face display of the depth of love Arwen and Aragorn share or the audience would be screaming for Aragorn to hook up with Eowyn.

911 posted on 12/19/2002 10:42:10 AM PST by RMDupree
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To: carton253
What movie?
912 posted on 12/19/2002 10:42:37 AM PST by ksen
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To: RMDupree
I wish Eowyn would kick Arwen's big butt all the way to Valinor.
913 posted on 12/19/2002 10:43:44 AM PST by Overtaxed
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To: John Farson
Hi.

Nice to meet you.

I looked up the femdwarf reference as per a polite suggestion (HoTD) and am satisfied that PJ got it right. I retain my opinion that his antics were beneath him and you are quite wrong in your assumption that I never liked Gimli to begin with.

Now, I may have read a little prickliness into your post that you did not intend, so I'll refrain from making similar assumptions in return.

914 posted on 12/19/2002 10:44:08 AM PST by Lil'freeper
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To: LinnieBeth
Watch carefully when they are riding uphill towards the Hall. It's really quick. I got the impression that Ian was losing his balance and just grasped it gently to straighten himself, but the outline remains on the robe when his hand moves away.
915 posted on 12/19/2002 10:44:30 AM PST by RMDupree
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To: Wordsmith
It was just as patronizing as if he'd come out and said he'd invited Al and Maxine over for fried chicken and watermelon to make up for the misunderstanding.

. . . . . . BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!

Oops, do I need to resign my spot here now?

916 posted on 12/19/2002 10:45:04 AM PST by ksen
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To: carton253
You do realize that you are watching a movie, don't you? LOL!

huuh? What? What are you trying to say? Are you trying to insinuate that this didn't really happen or something?

heheheheh

917 posted on 12/19/2002 10:45:46 AM PST by RMDupree
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To: RMDupree
No, not at all...
918 posted on 12/19/2002 10:47:13 AM PST by carton253
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To: LinnieBeth; Bear_in_RoseBear
Greetings, in order to whole-heartedly agree with you about PJ's treatment of Faramir. I'm not sure that part can grow on me. I loved Tolkein's work-up of Faramir as the mirror image of Boromir. Looking alike but opposite in those good/bad traits of character which caused Boromir's downfall and Faramir to show his true greatness. IMHO, that was something very important to me in the reading and I missed that in the film.
919 posted on 12/19/2002 10:47:56 AM PST by Wneighbor
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To: John Farson; RMDupree
I've forgotten, is Gimli older than 80 year old Aragorn?

I did a quick look through the Tale of Years, and it didn't have an entry for Gimli's birth... but! I stumbled across the Dwarf genealogy at the end of Appendix A, and it gives the year of Gimli's birth as 2879... which makes him 11 years older than Bilbo, and ~52 years older than Aragorn.

920 posted on 12/19/2002 10:48:10 AM PST by Bear_in_RoseBear
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