[varina davis]

I wasn't defensive, I was simply pointing out some facts.

I understand. But someone saying something doesn't make it a "fact."

And as far as Liz not being "interested in the Internet" -- well, I'm not interested in golf, but I will watch a bit of it now and then.

There are no absolutes.

[Devil_Anse]

"There are no absolutes."

It's a wonder you can find your way from your home to your work, with that kind of thinking.

The directions and geographical descriptions Utah Girl and Landerwy have given on this thread are absolute enough for our purposes. Certainly more "absolute" than Palladin's and your constant innuendo about alleged church member snobbishness.