[Sam Cree]

Good morning everyone.

g'nad, I've noticed where deer can really keep going, even after a fatal shot. I usually go for a double lung, even then they run 30-40 yds. before they fall. But they're dead when they fall. I've heard, but not witnessed, one going a long ways with a bullet through its heart.

But I didn't have much idea whether a human can keep going as strongly...I've always heard how animals are relatively stronger, pound for pound, than humans.

[g'nad]

but yer talkin' bullets, right? you hit a man in the torso, especially the upper torso with a shotgun or rifle, he's gonna drop...

case in point... I put four rounds of NATO 9MM FMJ through the center of a man's chest... went clean thru him with no immediate effect... (9mm FMJ I equate to a bodkin, cuz it's small, fast, and doesn't expand i.e. cut)... the 5th round was a Hydra-shock, (made to expand and do max damage) It dropped him like 5th period math...no exit wound...

but comparing wound ballistics between arrows and bullets is like the old apple/orange analysis...

not questioning the greater stamina of a deer and other animals... I'm sure a recurve hunter will tell yuh, a deer can go a lot further with an arrow from a recurve in him...

I'm not tryin' to discredit the movie, just somethin' that kinda bothered me...

[HairOfTheDog]

Ping to my last about pain tolerance in animals. I just made a related comment to yours....