False equivalency. The Holocaust occurred under an oppressive, paranoid regime where speaking out against it was a crime. Even so, there was a resistance movement, including several attempts at Hitler himself.
Men who fight the bias in the school system would not face that. They would face some name calling from the left, but nothing compared to what the "Women's Lib" and Civil Rights movements faced early on.
Besides, who could argue with a stand like "if you don't allow boys to do it to girls, then don't allow girls to do it to boys"?
For the third time: I am not qualified to comment upon that!
You're the one who replied to my point on that. Why comment on a point and then say you can't?
Anyway, this might help.
That is NOT the focus of the debate in which I am participating. SEE THE TITLE OF THE ARTICLE!
My posts are in DIRECT RESPONSE to that title. The issue why men are opting out. They're opting out because of the bias they face. We've known that for decades. What I'm discussing is why men have done little to change it.
Men shell out billions a year for prostitution, strip bars, porn, etc, and next to nothing on activism to change these biases. If women invest in activism while men spend billions on porn and what not, whose rights do you think are going to get priority?
You seem to be confused: You and I are basically on the same side - though you place emphasis on different sub-topics.
We both want the same thing, but I'm trying to get men to see that the choices they make have a lot to do with the bias they face. I know, I know, not all men, but far too few are willing to invest in stopping it. You can't say it's because they don't have the resources, because pornographers and human traffickers are making billions from men who consume their "product". That's the problem that has to be fixed. Opting out will only make men irrelevant in a few decades as women have babies without them.
I dispute that!
1. At the 2015 World Conference of Science Journalists in Seoul, Sir Tim Hunt, the British biochemist and 2001 Nobel Laureate for Physiology or Medicine, made remarks presented as humorous - including that women in labs "fall in love with you," "you fall in love with them," and "when you criticize them, they cry."
Pretty harmless, heh?
These comments triggered immediate backlash, widespread media coverage, and his resignation from several positions. The financial loss, alone (to say nothing of the public embarrassment and loss in reputation) could be estimated at tens of thousands of dollars.
2. At PyCon 2013, two male developers were sitting in the audience making jokes involving the words “dongle” and “forking” — both legitimate technical terms, but used in a way a nearby attendee, Adria Richards, perceived as sexual innuendo. Richards took a photo of the men, posted it on Twitter, and commented that their behavior was inappropriate. The tweet went viral almost immediately.
One of the men was fired by his employer, PlayHaven, after being identified from the photo.
And shall we also talk about false / obviously baseless rape allegations which can ruin a man's reputation (see the 2006 Duke U. men's lacrosse team scandal)?
Etc., etc.
I will freely admit that it has not yet reached "Holocaust" proportions - but it should be obvious to all those who have eyes to see that grave injustices are being perpetrated on a system-wide level.
Battling bullying in school might not raise that same level of push-back, but my point is made.
alexander_busek: For the third time: I am not qualified to comment upon that!
You: You're the one who replied to my point on that. Why comment on a point and then say you can't?
I didn't "comment" on it. Rather, I mentioned it, so that you wouldn't think that I had accidentally overlooked it or was trying to "skirt" the issue. I mentioned it only to clarify that I was not qualified - that's the sincere thing to do, right?
Regards,