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To: nickcarraway
Gee whiz. Over the years, as many as 25,000 ships have sunk in the Great Lakes. It is not exactly rare or particularly newsworthy.

That song isn't about a ship, it's a self-pleasuring homage by Gordon Lightfoot to himself. Nothing galls me as much as the moans of rich self-pitying hippies.

6 posted on 11/14/2025 5:00:07 PM PST by Governor Dinwiddie ( O give thanks unto the Lord, for He is gracious, and his mercy endures forever. — Psalm 106)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

Yeah not a fan of him either.


8 posted on 11/14/2025 5:00:51 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

Not newsworthy?

It was, to date, the largest ship to ever sink in those waters, claiming the lives of 29 crew members whose bodies were never recovered.

What’s your threshold?


16 posted on 11/14/2025 5:21:03 PM PST by sasquatch (Do NOT forget Ashli Babbit! c/o piytar)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie
Over the years, as many as 25,000 ships have sunk in the Great Lakes. It is not exactly rare or particularly newsworthy.

They had gone 22 years without a shipwreck on the Great Lakes and people believed such an event couldn't happen with modern technologies such as radios, weather forecasting and radar.

The sinking was a haunting reminder that they hadn't put that deadly history in the past. Gordon Lightfoot's song and the public response arguably forced the industry and politicians to not allow such a tragedy to be repeated.

As for one historian's claim that the number of ships is 25,000; that's not likely. Records of ship and cargo lost point to roughly 6,000. And of those 6,000 shipwrecks, many of those ran aground versus being lost in storms.

17 posted on 11/14/2025 5:25:56 PM PST by T.B. Yoits
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To: Governor Dinwiddie
It is not exactly rare or particularly newsworthy.

,,, I'd say that about the number of Michelle Obama threads on this site.

18 posted on 11/14/2025 5:29:27 PM PST by shaggy eel (A long way south of the border.)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

What a stupid comment.


25 posted on 11/14/2025 6:02:25 PM PST by bwest
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

Many of those in november.....hence the phrase “witch of november come stealin’.”
Lightfoot, himself a sailor, didn’t want the legacy of unrecoverable men to disappear...all profits from the song has gone to the families....doesn’t sound like self pleasuring to me...
I thought it was just a made up story, when researching something else in a library, I found the news story...great poetry...asks a question men have pondered from the beginning...”does anyone know where the love of God goes....?


28 posted on 11/14/2025 6:17:24 PM PST by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and harder to find.)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie
That song isn't about a ship, it's a self-pleasuring homage by Gordon Lightfoot to himself. Nothing galls me as much as the moans of rich self-pitying hippies.

Then why not write the lyrics about himself?

The proceeds from the song go to the surviving family members of the deceased.

What would you have had the guy do? Not write the song to hide his talent and not have any money to give to the families? (How would someone who wasn't a self-pitying hippie handle this?)

36 posted on 11/14/2025 6:59:10 PM PST by Captain Walker ("Justice exalteth a nation: but sin maketh nations miserable." – Proverbs 14:34)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie
There were many wrecks over the years, but at the late date of 1975 it was unfathomable to think that a massive cargo ship could sink on the Great Lakes with the loss of the entire crew.

It was definitely an anomaly. There hasn’t been another incident like that in the 50 years since.

41 posted on 11/14/2025 7:52:43 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("There's somebody new and he sure ain't no rodeo man.")
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