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If Jesus Was a Jew, Why Are We Catholic?
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Posted on 10/30/2025 10:11:18 AM PDT by DallasBiff

The term Jew is used in at least two senses in Scripture: to refer to those who are ethnically Jews and to those who are religiously Jews. Jesus was a Jew in both senses. In fact, he completed the Jewish religion by serving as the Messiah (Christ) whom the prophets had long foretold.

The completed form of the Jewish religion is known as Christianity, and its adherents are Christians or “followers of the Christ.” Unfortunately, many people who were ethnically Jewish did not recognize Jesus’ role as Messiah and so did not accept Christianity, the completed form of Judaism. Instead, they stayed with a partial, incomplete form of Judaism. Other Jews (the apostles and their followers) did recognize that Jesus was the Messiah and embraced the new, completed form of Judaism

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To: Sirius Lee
Are Gentiles who have accepted Christ, Jews?

Possibly.

But if so, if Christians are the real Jews, then "Jews" who reject Jesus are "those who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars" (Revelation 3:9)

I think this is what John meant. That to accept Jesus is to be a real Jew. And to reject Jesus is to cease being a Jew.

Which is not a pleasing thought to those who today call themselves Jews.

81 posted on 10/30/2025 3:28:05 PM PDT by Angelino97
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To: Angelino97

Okay, gotcha, Rabbi’s including Messianic Jews who study and teach torah for 3700 years have nothing on Christians. Todah.

I never wrote rabbi’s on my post but that’s for starting a divisiveness that’s wasn’t there.


82 posted on 10/30/2025 3:34:32 PM PDT by Karliner (Heb 4:12 Rom 8:28 Rev 3, "...This is the end of the beginning." Churchill)
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To: Karliner
Okay, gotcha, Rabbi’s including Messianic Jews who study and teach torah for 3700 years have nothing on Christians. Todah.

No, you don't "gotchme."

1. Messianic Jews are Christians.

2. No Messianic Jew -- no human being -- has taught Torah "for 3700 years." People don't live that long.

As I made clear, all rabbis were born in the 20th or 21st century. All they know is what they learned in the few decades of their lives, same as any Christian theologian.

Do you "gotch" that? Just because ancient Israelites wrote the Bible doesn't mean that the rabbi down the block has some special insight into it. Knowledge is not passed on in DNA.

Christian theologians are just as capable of studying ancient languages and documents, with the added advantage of studying them through the lens of the New Testament.

83 posted on 10/30/2025 3:50:02 PM PDT by Angelino97
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To: Angelino97
Oh p*ss off. You really want to start crap with me? You're making a mountain out of a molehill son

shalom.Is this you>/p> christcuck

84 posted on 10/30/2025 3:56:45 PM PDT by Karliner (Heb 4:12 Rom 8:28 Rev 3, "...This is the end of the beginning." Churchill)
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To: DarrellZero

“Jews don’t recognize the divinity of Christ.

Protestants don’t recognize the authority of the Pope.

Baptists don’t recognize each other at the liquor store.”

Best post on this thread.


85 posted on 10/30/2025 4:39:20 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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To: BipolarBob
You just can’t accept it.

Because it is eisegesis, it is very plain. Christ fulfilled the Law. Rom 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

86 posted on 10/30/2025 8:18:54 PM PDT by xone ( )
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To: BipolarBob

Romans 8:1-4 goes further. You are a legalist, Christians aren’t, at least those not keeping themselves in bondage after they have been freed by The Lord.


87 posted on 10/30/2025 8:25:01 PM PDT by xone ( )
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To: BereanBrain; Angelino97

The first believers were called Catholic ye universal church ye community of Jesus. That was before they got the exonym Christian.

And yes, they started off with a Pope, Peter, right from the start, the foundation of the Catholic church in 33 AD at Pentecost


88 posted on 10/30/2025 9:51:16 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: BereanBrain; Angelino97

The term “Catholic” (from Greek katholikos, “universal”) was used by early Christians to describe the Church’s unity across geographic and cultural boundaries. St. Ignatius of Antioch, writing around 107 AD to the Smyrnaeans (one of the seven churches!), says: “Wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church” (Letter to the Smyrnaeans 8:2). This early use shows that even the churches in Asia were understood as part of the universal Church, united by bishops in apostolic succession.


89 posted on 10/31/2025 4:40:54 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Hyman Roth
A lot of people don’t understand Jesus is a Jew but he’s the central part of Christianity. I have a hard time explaining it.

Catholicism is simply an offshoot of Judaism, the same way Methodists/Baptists/Lutherans/etc are offshoots from Catholicism (so Judaism is their grandparent basically). The split was around a single thing: Jew-Jews are still waiting for the Messiah, while Christians are simply Jews that believe Jesus was the Messiah.
90 posted on 10/31/2025 7:20:31 AM PDT by Svartalfiar (-)
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To: spacejunkie2001
They also confess their sins to the priest when we are to go directly to our God in Heaven for all of our needs.

So then what was the point of Jesus telling the Disciples to forgive/retain sins?
91 posted on 10/31/2025 7:24:37 AM PDT by Svartalfiar (-)
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To: Eccl 10:2; philman_36; Hyman Roth

Jesus fulfilled only about half of the messianic prophecies.

The ‘lamb’ prophecies refer to his roughly 3.5 years teaching
and preaching here on Earth, but the ‘lion’ prophecies refer
to His 2nd coming immediately before the millennial reign
where he conquers all of his enemies.


92 posted on 10/31/2025 10:29:32 AM PDT by BrandtMichaels ( 1st Peter 4:8 "Above all, love each other deeply because love covers a multitude of sins." )
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To: xone

Is God a legalist? Did He condemn Adam and Eve for lawbreaking? Did He punish Moses for lawbreaking? Will He forgive your willful disobedience ti His Ten Commandments? Do you think you are special? God wiped out all of humanity except Noah and family (possibly billions of people) but He will make an exception for you and your man-made denomination. Is that what you think?


93 posted on 10/31/2025 10:56:11 AM PDT by BipolarBob (These violent delights have violent ends.)
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To: Svartalfiar

Jesus commissioned the disciples, empowering them to be ambassadors who announce that sins are forgiven to those who believe the gospel, and that sins are not forgiven to those who reject it. It is not about the disciples granting forgiveness on their own, but about proclaiming God’s forgiveness through faith in Jesus Christ. The Scripture you reference emphasizes that ultimate authority to forgive belongs to God, while the disciples are agents tasked with sharing the message of salvation.

The disciples were filled with the Holy Spirit (as you’ll read right before John 20:23) and when we accept Christ, we are filled with the Holy Spirit, which gives us the same power that raised Jesus from the dead


94 posted on 10/31/2025 12:33:49 PM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: Angelino97

Most catholics I’ve seen WORSHIP and PRAY to Mary and other dead ‘saints’. By the way, a saint is a believer in Christ; it’s not a special designation beyond that (but being a Saint is the most magnificent designation in the world).

When you have the power of Christ living inside you, you will realize you do NOT need “help” from the dead and in fact are in breech of God’s commands to not worship or call on the dead.


95 posted on 10/31/2025 12:36:55 PM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: murron
Catholic means Universal.

Yes, it describes the Church as being present or occurring everywhere.

Merriam Webster definition of Universal

96 posted on 10/31/2025 12:39:21 PM PDT by Repealthe17thAmendment
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To: BipolarBob

Jesus Christ is now our Sabbath rest; He fulfilled the law by becoming it


97 posted on 10/31/2025 12:47:21 PM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: BipolarBob
So, do you contend to have no sin vis a vis the 10 Commandments? James 2:10 For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all.

So you break the 3rd Commandment all day long. No better (or worse) than those who worship on Sunday.

Gal 5:4 You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.

Galatians 2:16

nevertheless knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, so that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the Law; since by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified.

Romans 3:20

because by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified in His sight; for through the Law comes the knowledge of sin.

Romans 3:28

For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law.

Galatians 3:11

Now that no one is justified by the Law before God is evident; for, “The righteous man shall live by faith.”

Galatians 5:4

You have been severed from Christ, you who are seeking to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.

Acts 13:39

and through Him everyone who believes is freed from all things, from which you could not be freed through the Law of Moses.

Romans 4:2

For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God.

Galatians 2:21

I do not nullify the grace of God, for if righteousness comes through the Law, then Christ died needlessly.”

Galatians 3:24

Therefore the Law has become our tutor to lead us to Christ, so that we may be justified by faith.

So @ best you are in the mold of the Pharisees who thought to teach the Word of God by whom all things were made about the Law and specifically the Sabbath. Or you are like the ones who corrupted the Word of God given to His church in Galatia by your Judaizing approach to Christian liberty through Our Lord Jesus. Trying to burden the consciences of Christians? Which is it? Pharisee or Judaizer? Do you claim to be better than Abraham? Gonna hafta go with what Gods says vs your false prophetess.

98 posted on 10/31/2025 12:59:53 PM PDT by xone ( )
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To: spacejunkie2001

Chapter and verse on the annulment of the Sabbath. Did Jesus come to destroy the Law? What were His words on this?


99 posted on 10/31/2025 1:15:36 PM PDT by BipolarBob (These violent delights have violent ends.)
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To: Angelino97

If you read the Word of God, you will see that Jesus was called Rabbi or Rabboni multiple times. Not sure where you’re getting your information


100 posted on 10/31/2025 1:17:42 PM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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