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To: Ditto
Jesus. Now we’re arguing WWII?

We are arguing about a subjugating power establishing *FAKE* governments who enforce the will of the occupying power and who use innocent people to produce weapons of subjugation.

The NAZIS are an example that I thought you could understand. The Jews manufacturing their weapons may have been innocent, but they were still manufacturing the weapons the NAZIS would use to hurt other people.

I asked you how the US Army made the Klan go around murdering innocent people and you switch the subject to WWII.

The innocent people were helping the *OCCUPIERS* to gain power for the purpose of subjugating the people of the land they were occupying.

And scaring them away from helping the occupiers is a lot more humane than killing them. I don't have any numbers on how many murders they committed, but I suspect it is as highly inflated as the claims of slaves beaten and whipped before the war.

I think their primary effort was to scare them away from giving Republicans power at the polls, though they should have probably realized their efforts would ultimately be futile.

So do you know finally "get it"? Had the army not been there occupying their land and abusing their people, there never would have been a KKK.

The Army caused the KKK, just like every occupation army provokes a local response to resist and fight back against the occupiers.

281 posted on 09/06/2025 9:04:50 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp; BroJoeK; jeffersondem; Ditto; x; woodpusher; Fury
"Had the army not been there occupying their land and abusing their people, there never would have been a KKK.

The Army caused the KKK."

There is a lot of logic to this.(It also has its flaws but I refuse to get pulled into the CW swamp) The exact reasons for the Army and the logical resistance that arises because of it are, of course, as was also mentioned about the French Underground, the same reasons generally speaking during the American Revolution.

It's all the same reasons why the Founding Fathers opposed the Empire's Slavery. Not "American Slavery". The Empire's slavery which was indistinguishable from what existed in the Caribbean/West Indies.

The Empire's slavery. Which was later inherited by the U.S. against the U.S.'s will. It was forced on the United States. I will not, will not let this go, the facts themselves simply don't require me to let it go.

Slavery was forced on the United States by the British Empire.

308 posted on 09/08/2025 11:26:49 AM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (We cannot vote our way out of these problems. The only way out is to activist our way out.)
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