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IRS to Combine Church and State
Armstrong Economics ^ | 11 July 25 | Martin Armstrong

Posted on 07/11/2025 4:25:44 AM PDT by delta7

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No thoughts on this, time will tell.
1 posted on 07/11/2025 4:25:44 AM PDT by delta7
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To: delta7

To be fair, I’ve run into a fair number of Churches that operate like secular businesses.


2 posted on 07/11/2025 4:27:54 AM PDT by BBQToadRibs2
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To: delta7

The Constitution permits churches to advocate for candidates. It is only the government that cant.


3 posted on 07/11/2025 4:27:57 AM PDT by Jonty30 (He was so fat that it took a year for his memory foam mattress to forget him. )
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To: kiryandil

Hurry!!!


4 posted on 07/11/2025 4:28:59 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in thays of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: delta7

This has been a scam to allow Black Churches to throw political rallies in their buildings for years. It was time to even the playing field.


5 posted on 07/11/2025 4:30:08 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Freedom is never free. It must be won rewon and jealously guarded.)
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To: Jonty30

Correct. Separation of church and state protects worship it doesn’t protect the government.

The first sentence mentions LBJ That’s all I need to know about why Trump fixed this abomination.

My church tells us it is a sin to vote for certain measures and to vote for the lesser of two evils when not voting will get the bad guy elected

They need protection?

The IRS is going to hold that over the church? Not what the constitution intended


6 posted on 07/11/2025 4:33:08 AM PDT by stanne (Because they were mesmerized by Obama, the man for whom this was named, whose name they left out of )
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To: delta7

[to protect the Constitutional conditions of separation of church and state.]

THAT is NOT in the Constitution. That phrase comes from a court.

The DEMOCRATS REGULARLY ABUSED this, though.

LBJ was ...... not a nice guy (I’m being too kind)


7 posted on 07/11/2025 4:36:50 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in thays of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: delta7

The pastor has so little time on the pulpit to tell people about the good news of Jesus Christ. Taking that time to talk about politics is it difficult trade-off. I doubt biblically based churches who are eager to bring people to Christ and to help people sanctify their lives is going to spend much time and energy getting people elected to office.


8 posted on 07/11/2025 4:43:08 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: delta7

separation of church and state refers to no official state religion, not advocating for candidates

this article is pure BS


9 posted on 07/11/2025 4:44:40 AM PDT by WeaslesRippedMyFlesh
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To: delta7

“God damn america”


10 posted on 07/11/2025 4:45:53 AM PDT by WeaslesRippedMyFlesh
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To: SaveFerris; All

Correct. Allowing politics into churches in no way seeks to ‘establish one state religion’....which is the gist of what is in the constitution.


11 posted on 07/11/2025 4:48:12 AM PDT by chiller (Davey Crockett: "Be sure you're right. Then go ahead". (We'll go ahead))
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To: jmaroneps37

Why did you capitalize “black?”


12 posted on 07/11/2025 4:53:11 AM PDT by bwest
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To: WeaslesRippedMyFlesh
SATAN did some significant work through DEMOCRAT Barack Hussein Obama who turned the White House into a Godless Reprobate Abomination before the Lord God

And fools cheered....SMH


All According to SATAN'S Plan

Rainbow White House happened on Friday, June 26, 2015 - turning the White House into a Godless Reprobate Abomination


13 posted on 07/11/2025 4:53:28 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in thays of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: chiller

Exactly - this whole thing has been misrepresented for a long time

Which is typical


14 posted on 07/11/2025 4:55:31 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in thays of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: jmaroneps37

A black (NOT “Black”) conservative minister was on Newsmax or Fox last nigh,t and he pointed out the fact that black (NOT “Black”) churches have been blatantly doing this forever.


15 posted on 07/11/2025 4:56:35 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (It's hard not to celebrate the fall of bad people. - Bongino)
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To: SaveFerris

The phrase comes from a letter that Jefferson wrote.

It is not codified anywhere.

People (not YOU Ferris) seem to forget that the Bill of Rights prohibits the government from doing certain things. For example, the government cannot impede your free speech; but your employer can. The government cannot impose a state religion on you. It doesn’t say that religion cannot have a political opinion-which would be covered by the religion and speech clauses.

This is not advanced, technical understanding of the Constitution. This is “fourth grade level” understanding of it.

I guess fourth grade is not as encompassing as it used to be.


16 posted on 07/11/2025 4:57:48 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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A church requires no 501)c)3 nor any filed status with the IRS. A church is non-taxable. Period. A church is not required to file anything at all to be non-taxable, and even the IRS will admit this---it does so in thousands of letters to inquirers annually---if a church, or individual will ask, they can have it in writing.

When a 501(c)3, or 4, etc. IS signed and filed, THEN the church obligates itself to such nonsense as the Johnson Amendment, and and all other public policy incursions of government.

Sign on that dotted line . . . surrender your liberties.

17 posted on 07/11/2025 5:02:32 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: Vermont Lt

I thought some court quoted it, no?


18 posted on 07/11/2025 5:06:57 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in thays of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: delta7

IBTG

IBTS


19 posted on 07/11/2025 5:07:39 AM PDT by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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To: delta7

Free speech is paramount.
Congress can decide if to tax churches otherwise.
Buying their silence through the tax laws is unconstitutional.


20 posted on 07/11/2025 5:09:38 AM PDT by CodeToad
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