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Are the Neocons and the MIC winning Trump's ear? He was venting frustration with Putin and hinting (I think ?) at "helping" Ukraine
1 posted on 07/05/2025 9:47:18 AM PDT by RandFan
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Military Summary Channel
https://youtu.be/PNjeAcT20ck
Uke strategy of giving up more cities and villages paying off.


2 posted on 07/05/2025 9:48:31 AM PDT by MotorCityBuck (Keep the change, you are filthy animal !)
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Step aside and the let the Euros arm the Ukraine.


3 posted on 07/05/2025 9:51:05 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is opinion or satire. Or both.)
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Mr. Trump is certainly a brave man - he was impeached by the D@mocrats just for talking to Zelensky (guess they didn't want their "gravy train" interrupted)...

;^)

4 posted on 07/05/2025 9:54:53 AM PDT by Who is John Galt? ("...mit Pulver und Blei, Die Gedanken sind frei!")
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5 posted on 07/05/2025 9:56:35 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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Grow up. Trump is dealing with reality. I said I would support him if he decided to sync Ukraine into the ocean and I will support him no matter what decision he makes. He can’t possibly let Putin conquer Ukraine and he can’t abandon Europe. He tried to act as a neutral peace broker he even gave Ukraine an incredibly hard time but Russia is just trying to take advantage of that. Very sad but the only good thing is that Russia hasn’t been able to conquer Ukraine in over 3 years so probably they can be held back.
For those of you that like to think Russia is a unicorn or pony and I’m not addressing that to randfan, but there is a lot of chatter that Putin is preparing to go into the Baltic countries.


6 posted on 07/05/2025 9:59:06 AM PDT by Williams (Thank God for the election of President Trump!)
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8 posted on 07/05/2025 10:02:28 AM PDT by Mount Athos
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Sympathy is fine but involving the US isn’t.


13 posted on 07/05/2025 10:18:47 AM PDT by Kinzua (What have we allowed to happen?)
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Quite panicking. Trump is telling Zelensky and neocons what they want to here.

I don't believe for a second that he'd agree to spend anymore on arming Ukraine beyond what was authorized under Biden.

And, I have no doubt that it is true that our own stockpiles are so low, we can't afford to give Ukraine certain arms.

14 posted on 07/05/2025 10:24:50 AM PDT by Kazan
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15 posted on 07/05/2025 10:30:48 AM PDT by Apparatchik (Русские свиньи, идите домой!)
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Trump: We had a strong, strategic call with Zelenskyy — we continue our support... My call with Putin was disappointing.

Green Goblin 1, Red Dwarf 0
17 posted on 07/05/2025 11:02:33 AM PDT by Chad_the_Impaler
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Trump is giving Putin the most valuable thing: time. He will allow Putin to take Ukraine because they both have had the same common enemy. So in the meantime, he says this, and he says that, and the Russians keep winning and taking territory.


19 posted on 07/05/2025 12:07:06 PM PDT by BEJ
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Putin and Zelenskyy locked into a power play not good for both or countries.

Two Rome’s?.


20 posted on 07/05/2025 12:10:04 PM PDT by Vaduz
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“Are the Neocons and the MIC winning Trump’s ear?”

If someone has a different opinion than you have they are a “neocon”?
What is a “neocon”?


21 posted on 07/05/2025 12:13:51 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (“I don’t really care, Margaret.”)
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Not good. I am beginning to think Trumps advisors have turned, like his last term.

Trump was elected on the platform of Peace, not more wars and proxy wars….especially for a severely corrupted comedian like Z.


22 posted on 07/05/2025 12:32:40 PM PDT by delta7
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People laugh at Russia for their three year Ukrainian SMO, but I will remind them the US has been warring in the ME since 1991, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, etc ….
and have lost all them.


24 posted on 07/05/2025 12:51:24 PM PDT by delta7
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The Dems/Biden caused this by urging NATO to accept Ukraine.

Let’s not forget how the Rats actively sabotaged Trump’s planned rare-earth minerals offer - by meeting with Zelensky just prior to the meeting and psyching him up to push back on Trump in that very public WH meeting...


26 posted on 07/05/2025 1:07:53 PM PDT by 4Liberty (One person’s Socialism is another’s neighborliness. -Tim Walz)
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Great way to end the war on “day one.” This is Trump’s carbon copy of Biden’s failure.

1. Foolishly dump money and our military gear into a black (shit)hole.

2. Useless sanctions.

3. No end game or articulation of victory.


27 posted on 07/05/2025 1:11:50 PM PDT by AAABEST (That time Washington0 DC became a corrupted, existential threat to us all...)
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Operation Bush 3.0 continues apace.


38 posted on 07/06/2025 5:54:21 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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