The only way Cronos can even TRY to counter the Reformers’ accusations that the Papacy is the Little Horn/Antichrist power is to deny clear biblical scripture, saying that Daniel had ANOTHER separate vision in Daniel 9, which was 490 years, but the 2300 days vision was just days. Cronos is a sad and pathetic Jesuit.
No answers from you, phil about the demonic origins of your Adventist belief called the Investigative Judgment which contradicts Scripture’s clear teaching on Christ’s completed atonement and judgment:
- Hebrews 9:12: “He entered the Most Holy Place once for all by his own blood, thus obtaining eternal redemption.” This states Christ’s sacrifice at Calvary (c. 33 AD) fully atoned for sins, entering the heavenly sanctuary at His ascension, not 1844. White’s claim that Christ began this work in 1844 (*The Great Controversy*, p. 421-422) denies His finished work (John 19:30: “It is finished”), a satanic lie.
- Hebrews 10:10-14: “We have been made holy through the sacrifice of the body of Jesus Christ once for all… by one sacrifice he has made perfect forever those who are being made holy.” This refutes a 1844 investigative process, affirming Christ’s single, perfect sacrifice. White’s ongoing judgment undermines this, suggesting His work was incomplete.
- John 5:24: “Whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged.” Believers are judged at conversion, not in a 1844 review. Adventism’s delay contradicts Christ’s promise.
- 1 John 2:1-2: “If anybody does sin, we have an advocate with the Father—Jesus Christ, the Righteous One… He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins.” Christ’s advocacy is immediate, not contingent on a 1844 investigation. White’s doctrine adds a human works element, violating Galatians 2:16.
- Daniel 8:14 Misuse: White ties the Investigative Judgment to Daniel 8:14’s “2300 evenings and mornings,” interpreted as 2300 years ending in 1844. This is baseless. The text refers to Antiochus IV’s Temple desecration (167-164 BC, 1 Maccabees 1:41-54, 4:52-56), a literal 2300 days, not years. Ezekiel 4:6’s day-for-year principle is symbolic, not universal, and Daniel 8:26 calls it a “vision,” not a prophetic timeline.
Your doctrine is unbiblical, Phil, denying Christ’s completed redemption for White’s 1844 fantasy.
Historical: The Investigative Judgment’s origins expose its fraudulent roots
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- 1844 Great Disappointment: White’s doctrine emerged after William Miller’s failed prediction of Christ’s return on October 22, 1844. To salvage this flop, Hiram Edson claimed a vision of Christ entering the heavenly sanctuary, which White later adopted (*Early Writings*, p. 54-56). This is a post-hoc invention, not divine revelation, born of human error.
- Early Christian Silence: No early Church Father (e.g., Augustine, Chrysostom) or Reformation theologian (e.g., Luther, Calvin) taught a 1844 investigative judgment. The concept is absent from Christian tradition until Adventism’s 19th-century desperation, contrasting with the Church’s consistent view of Christ’s immediate intercession (Hebrews 7:25).
- Adventist Revisionism: White’s writings, revered as divine (SDA Belief #18), contradict historical Christian eschatology. The Council of Nicaea (325 AD) and later councils focused on Christ’s divinity and resurrection, not a 1844 judgment. Your doctrine is a modern cultic aberration, Phil, not apostolic truth.
Your historical claim is a lie, forged to prop up White’s failed prophecy, not God’s Word.
3. Linguistic basis for the Investigative Judgment collapses under scrutiny
- “2300 Evenings and Mornings” (Daniel 8:14): The Hebrew term *ereb boqer* (“evenings and mornings”) typically denotes literal days (e.g., Genesis 1:5). The Septuagint and Theodotion translate it as “days,” aligning with Antiochus’ 2300-day Temple desecration (167-164 BC). Adventism’s day-for-year interpretation, based on Ezekiel 4:6, is a forced analogy, not a linguistic norm. Daniel 8:26’s “vision” (Hebrew: *chazon*) suggests a symbolic timeframe, not a prophetic era.
- “Cleansing of the Sanctuary”: The Hebrew *taher* (“to cleanse”) in Daniel 8:14 refers to the Temple’s purification after Antiochus’ defilement (1 Maccabees 4:36-59). Adventism reinterprets this as a heavenly judgment, but no linguistic evidence in Daniel supports a shift from earthly to celestial context. The Greek *katharismos* in the Septuagint reinforces a physical cleansing, not a 1844 audit.
- Daniel 9:24-27 Link: You imply the 70 weeks (490 years) connect to the 2300 days, but Daniel 9:23 specifies Gabriel’s message as “insight and understanding” for the 70 weeks, not an explanation of Daniel 8. The Aramaic and Hebrew lack any textual bridge, making your 1844 timeline a linguistic fabrication.
Your linguistic gymnastics, Phil, are a desperate stretch to justify White’s 1844 lie, not biblical exegesis.
the Investigative Judgment’s logic is riddled with contradictions and absurdities:
- Redundant Judgment: If Christ judges believers’ works from 1844 to determine salvation, why judge again at the Second Coming (Matthew 25:31-46, Revelation 20:11-15)? This duplicates judgment, implying God’s omniscience is flawed—logically absurd.
- Delayed Atonement: White’s claim that Christ’s atonement began in 1844 contradicts His immediate intercession (Hebrews 7:25). If sins weren’t atoned until 1844, how were Old Testament saints saved (Hebrews 9:15)? Your doctrine delays redemption, defying Christ’s finished work (John 19:30).
- 1844 Date Fabrication: The 2300-year timeline (457 BC to 1844 AD) relies on Artaxerxes’ decree (Ezra 7:11-26), but historical dates vary (e.g., 458 or 445 BC). Adjusting for zero-year transition, 1844 lacks precision, exposing White’s post-hoc adjustment after the Great Disappointment as a logical fudge.
- Human Works Salvation: The Investigative Judgment bases salvation on post-1844 obedience, adding works to faith (Galatians 2:16). This contradicts Scripture’s grace-alone doctrine (Ephesians 2:8-9), making God’s judgment arbitrary and human effort decisive—logically incoherent.
Your logic, Phil, is a house of cards, built on White’s desperation, not divine reason.
Adventism’s Satanic Evils: A Cult of Lies
Phil, your Investigative Judgment obsession stems from Seventh-day Adventism’s demonic core, built on Ellen G. White’s lies. Let’s expose your cult’s evils:
| Adventist Error | Details | Biblical Refutation |
|---|
| False Prophecies | White’s 1856, 1844, 1845 failures (Testimonies for the Church, Vol. 1, p. 131-132). | Deuteronomy 18:22 |
| Investigative Judgment | Denies Christ’s atonement (The Great Controversy, p. 421-422). | Hebrews 9:12 |
| Sabbath Idolatry | Salvific Sabbath lacks support (The Great Controversy, p. 605-612). | Colossians 2:16-17 |
| Plagiarism | White stole from authors (The White Lie by Walter Rea). | Revelation 22:18-19 |
Adventism is a satanic cult, chaining you to White’s lies and a works-based gospel.
Phil, your Investigative Judgment is a demonic lie, born of White’s 1844 failure. Biblical evidence (Hebrews 9:12, John 5:24) refutes a 1844 judgment; historical context (Great Disappointment) exposes its fraud; linguistic analysis (Daniel 8:14) debunks the 2300-year timeline; and logic (redundant judgment) reveals its absurdity. Adventism’s evils—White’s false prophecies, Investigative Judgment heresy, Sabbath idolatry, and anti-Catholic venom—mark it as a satanic cult. Produce one verse mandating a 1844 judgment or tying it to Daniel 8:14. You can’t, because your theology is White’s trash.