Posted on 06/19/2025 1:40:40 AM PDT by RandFan
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“”””He literally said to Tucker, he was elected to protect Israel. Not to represent Texas.””””
What is the exact quote and about where in the interview is it?
So far I did find this quote “my driving motive is to fight for Texas and America and to fight for jobs and to fight for the Constitution”
“”I’ll take Constitutionalist Cruz over Libertarian/Idiocy Rand EVERY DAY ... ymmv””
HELL to the YEAH on that!
Everyone is allowed their hobby horses, and first amendment rights.
Properly, we get to know all these things, and make personal judgments about them.
Obviously, some folks are offended when Jews get together and contribute. Others might be offended when muslims get together and contribute. I’m happy for both to occur and be known, and let the chips fall where they may.
Selective outrage against one or the other group allows us to know the nature of the outraged party.
If CAIR contributes mightily to Rashida Tlaib, I’ll be outraged. She supports terrorists and the destruction of Western Cuvilization. But apparently RandFan is okay with that. He’s got a bee in his bonnet against Jews only.
Interesting.
Yes. There’s almost point in running for a public office with wages of “just” a couple hundred thousand dollars a year when it costs multi- millions just yo campaign for it.
The point is, getting into the “public” office enables making multi millions more in “contributions” and unreported bribes —- millions and millions and millions more $$$$$$$$
And this is true across much or even most of both political parties.
Thinking of how phuqued- up California is, that state previously had a powerful legislative leader called Jessie Unruh. Who would occasionally make rather candid, truth- bearing statements (whether fully intentional
Or not). Whrn a reporter asked him about all the corruption in Sacramento (like, under his legislative leadership), he immediately protested that “California has the very best government that money can buy!!”)
Case rested.
“”“”””He literally said to Tucker, he was elected to protect Israel. Not to represent Texas.””””
What is the exact quote and about where in the interview is it?
So far I did find this quote “my driving motive is to fight for Texas and America and to fight for jobs and to fight for the Constitution”””
As usual, they are twisting what was actually said. Here is what Cruz actually said... NOT that ‘he was elected to protect Israel’. He stated that he would be a defender of Israel... which is exactly what was and still is needed.
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“So, to be honest, not a whole lot effectively. Listen, I came into to Congress 13 years ago with the stated intention of being the leading defender of Israel in the United States Senate. I’ve worked every day to do that. AIPAC. A lot of times AIPAC I wish were much more effective. Like there are folks on the line who are the fear swamp of terrified of AIPAC and AIPAC.”
“”But apparently RandFan is okay with that. He’s got a bee in his bonnet against Jews only.””
They are Deep Staters... and as such, they are rabidly anti-Israel and especially, anti-Netanyahu.
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The Deep State vs. Netanyahu: A Plot Unraveling Before Our Eyes
https://www.israelunwired.com/the-deep-state-vs-netanyahu-a-plot-unraveling-before-our-eyes/
My favorite part of the fake quote is this, he was “elected to protect Israel. Not to represent Texas”.
How many posts you going to spam this thread with?
It’s an observation and I have no MALICE at all
Generally I think it’s appalling nations can have such influence and I wish they changed the system
I think it’s “dirty” and tainting politics but as you say the men in black robes have ruled it protected speech.
You are now well known for your prejudices.
Thanks.
I am not prejudiced
find ONE post of mine that is out of order there isn’t one.
I’m always respectful
Now, ALberta’s ,makes a salient point. If we had politicians owned by CAIR you’ll soon want the system changed and this is bound to happen at some point.
Equally, I dont like that side of things either. It should be looked at
“”It’s an observation and I have no MALICE at all””
Lol... no malice at all? Not even a little bit? Cause... posting a link to an anti-Israel X account and also claiming that pro-Israel Cruz is “bought and paid for” (by Israel, no less) is showing your love. Yeah...
riiiight.
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“I’m sorry but that is disgusting. He’s bought and paid for.”
Really I dont have any malice other than thinking this is egregious and the laws should be changed
That’s it!
My post #74 pre-disproves you.
Whoops!! #83.
I’ve sadly read all your posts and i’m not OK with it, you’re making assumptions and putting words in my mouth
Just stop it
You can freely donate to AIPAC that’s your constitutional right but I think the laws should be looked at particularly if advocating for a foreign nation
And I’m not the only person who says this Rep. Thomas Massie who AIPAC has targeted with millions in attacks also thinks they should not be allowed to do it as a foreign nation advocate (effectively, anyway)
Feel free to be at all outraged by any of the following non-Jewish groups:
“ Large religious and ethnic interest groups in the United States wield significant influence through campaign contributions, lobbying, and political action committees (PACs). These groups often represent specific communities or causes, seeking to shape policy in areas like foreign policy, social issues, or economic priorities. Below, I outline some prominent religious and ethnic interest groups, their activities, and available data on their contributions, based on credible sources and recent information.
Religious Interest Groups
Religious interest groups often focus on social issues like abortion, marriage, or religious freedom, and many align with specific political ideologies. Here are some notable examples:
1. National Right to Life Committee (Pro-Life)
• Focus: Advocates against abortion and related policies.
• Contributions: Supports candidates, primarily Republicans, who share their views. According to OpenSecrets, pro-life groups, including National Right to Life, contributed over $2 million in the 2023-2024 election cycle, with most funds directed to Republican candidates through PACs.
• Influence: Uses lobbying and voter mobilization to influence elections and legislation, particularly on reproductive issues.
2. NARAL Pro-Choice America
• Focus: Champions abortion rights and women’s reproductive freedom.
• Contributions: Primarily supports Democratic candidates. In the 2023-2024 cycle, NARAL’s PAC and individual contributions totaled approximately $1.5 million, mostly to Democrats.
• Influence: Engages in lobbying and public campaigns to protect abortion access, often countering pro-life groups.
3. Family Research Council
• Focus: Promotes conservative Christian values, focusing on issues like traditional marriage and religious liberty.
• Contributions: Through its PAC, CitizenLink, it supports Republican candidates. Exact figures for 2023-2024 are limited, but in past cycles (e.g., 2015-2016), similar conservative religious groups collectively donated around $5 million.
• Influence: Mobilizes evangelical voters and lobbies for policies aligning with Christian conservative priorities.
4. U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops
• Focus: Represents Catholic interests, often on issues like immigration, healthcare, and poverty.
• Contributions: While not directly funding candidates due to tax-exempt status, Catholic-affiliated PACs and individual donors influenced by the Church contributed roughly $3 million in the 2023-2024 cycle, split between parties but leaning Republican.
• Influence: Lobbies for policies reflecting Catholic social teaching, with significant grassroots networks.
Ethnic Interest Groups
Ethnic interest groups often focus on foreign policy related to their homeland or domestic issues like civil rights. Below are key players:
1. American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) and Related Groups
• Focus: Pro-Israel advocacy, influencing U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East.
• Contributions: AIPAC itself does not directly contribute, but its donors and allied PACs are major players. In the 2018 cycle, pro-Israel groups and donors spent over $22 million on lobbying and campaign contributions. More recently, posts on X indicate that Miriam Adelson’s Preserve America PAC, aligned with pro-Israel interests, spent over $215 million supporting Donald Trump in the 2024 presidential election, and the Republican Jewish Coalition, an AIPAC ally, contributed over $14 million since 2020.
• Influence: AIPAC’s network is one of the most powerful, with extensive lobbying and bipartisan support, though its contributions heavily favor candidates supporting strong U.S.-Israel ties.
2. National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP)
• Focus: Advocates for African-American civil rights, addressing issues like voting rights and criminal justice reform.
• Contributions: The NAACP’s PAC and related advocacy groups donated approximately $1 million in the 2023-2024 cycle, primarily to Democrats.
• Influence: Focuses on grassroots mobilization and lobbying, with significant impact on civil rights legislation.
3. League of United Latin American Citizens (LULAC)
• Focus: Represents Hispanic interests, focusing on immigration, education, and economic opportunities.
• Contributions: LULAC’s PAC and affiliated donors contributed around $800,000 in the 2023-2024 cycle, mostly to Democratic candidates.
• Influence: Lobbies for immigration reform and mobilizes Latino voters, a growing electoral force.
4. Armenian National Committee of America (ANCA)
• Focus: Advocates for Armenian-American interests, particularly recognition of the Armenian Genocide and U.S. aid to Armenia.
• Contributions: ANCA’s PAC donated about $500,000 in the 2023-2024 cycle, split between parties but leaning Democratic.
• Influence: Focuses on foreign policy, with lobbying efforts targeting Congress and the State Department.
Broader Context and Observations
• Scale of Contributions: OpenSecrets reports that interest groups across sectors spent billions in recent election cycles, with religious and ethnic groups forming a significant portion. For example, in the 2015-2016 cycle, PACs from various sectors (including religious and ethnic groups) contributed over $2 billion to federal candidates and parties.
• Mechanisms: These groups use PACs, direct contributions, and “soft money” (e.g., independent expenditures) to influence elections. “Bundling” allows groups to collect individual donations, amplifying their impact without violating contribution limits.
• Partisan Leanings: Religious groups like pro-life organizations and evangelical groups lean heavily Republican, while pro-choice and civil rights groups (e.g., NAACP, LULAC) align with Democrats. Pro-Israel groups often maintain bipartisan support but have recently tilted toward Republicans.
• Influence Beyond Money: These groups also mobilize voters, file amicus briefs, and lobby directly. For instance, the Sierra Club and ACLU have used legal actions to influence policy, as seen in cases like Sierra Club v. Trump.
Notes on Data
• Sources: Contribution figures are primarily drawn from OpenSecrets, which tracks federal campaign data through the Federal Election Commission (FEC). X posts provide recent sentiment but are treated as inconclusive without corroboration.
• Limitations: Exact figures for 2023-2024 are preliminary, as FEC data is updated periodically. Some groups, especially religious ones, operate through tax-exempt entities, making direct contributions harder to track. Local and state-level contributions are less comprehensively reported.
• Critical Perspective: The influence of these groups raises concerns about disproportionate access for wealthy or well-organized interests. Critics argue this can skew policy away from the broader public’s needs, though others see it as a legitimate expression of democratic participation.
For more details on specific contributions, visit OpenSecrets (https://www.opensecrets.org) for federal data or check state-specific election boards for local contributions. If you want me to dig deeper into a specific group or election cycle, let me know!”
-Grok
why are you throwing grok at me? Did you read my post? I said those advocating effectively for a foreign nation should be looked at and ideally it should not be allowed to go on IMO it taints politics somewhat
Your continued selective outrage against AIPAC is so thick you couldn’t cut it with your sharpened swastika.
🙄🙄🙄
I think we’ll have to agree to disagree on this one
Massie had the right idea. It taints politics.
Look at all of the NGO $$$ going to Dems, and, probably a few RINOs, that is destroying our country, from within ... this *should* be the first concern of conservative FReepers, over an American-Israeli alliance.
What is AIPAC ...
The American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) is a bipartisan, pro-Israel lobbying group in the United States. Its purpose is to strengthen the relationship between the U.S. and Israel by advocating for policies that enhance Israel’s security and promote shared interests. AIPAC works to influence U.S. foreign policy through grassroots mobilization, education, and direct engagement with policymakers.
Mission: AIPAC’s mission is to encourage a strong U.S.-Israel alliance by fostering bipartisan support in Congress, ensuring Israel receives U.S. military and diplomatic support, and promoting legislation that aligns with mutual strategic goals, such as countering threats in the Middle East and advancing peace efforts.
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