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To: TigerClaws
Also, Catholics err believing in purgatory. To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.

I think you misinterpret that line.

Souls in Hell are not in the body, yet not present with the Lord.

So why can't the same be said of souls in Purgatory?

23 posted on 10/16/2024 10:17:51 AM PDT by Angelino97
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To: Angelino97; fidelis; .45 Long Colt; Apple Pan Dowdy; BDParrish; Big Red Badger; BlueDragon; ...
I think you misinterpret that line. Souls in Hell are not in the body, yet not present with the Lord. So why can't the same be said of souls in Purgatory?

Why? You should know that lost souls, being in Hell, cannot be with the Lord, while this is where believers always will be. For wherever Scripture clearly speaks of the next conscious reality for those who die in effectual regenerating justifying faith (Acts 10:43-47; 15:7-9) - which is imputed for righteousness, (Romans 4:5) and is shown in baptism and following the Lord, (Acts 2:38-47; Jn. 10:27, 28) - then it is with the Lord, at death or His return (Lk. 23:43 [cf. 2Cor. 12:4; Rv. 2:7]; Phil 1:23; 2Cor. 5:8 [“we”]; 1Cor. 15:51ff'; 1Thess. 4:17) Note in the latter case all believers were assured that if the Lord returned, which they expected in their lifetime, so would they “ever be with the Lord.” (1Thes. 4:17) though they were still undergoing growth in grace, as was Paul, who expressed he would go to be with the Lord at death, yet was not already perfect. (Phil. 3:10f)

RC (not the same as in EO) Purgatory flows from the fundamental error in the false gospel of Catholicism, that of justification and final salvation on the basis of actually becoming good enough to be with God.

Biblical salvation by grace, in which man is in need of salvation for sins he/she has committed, and cannot be saved based upon actual moral worthiness, but is redeemed through effectual regenerating (being not just physically born but born of the Spirit: John 3:5-7) justifying faith - not of works – (Titus 3:5) in the risen Lord Jesus, who saves sinners by His sinless shed blood, and which by faith the believer is accounted righteousness (Romans 4:5; 10:10) on Christ’s account, being “accepted in the Beloved.” (Ephesians 1:6)

For it is this faith that purifies the heart in the washing of regeneration when one effectually believes the gospel, (Acts 10:4315:7-9Titus 3:5) and results in the fruit of obedience/holiness. (Romans 6:22)

Which  fruit evidences that such are believers, and which effectual faith as expressed in obedience by the Holy Spirit (Romans 8:14Heb. 6:910)

God rewards the justified for, (1 Co. 3:8ff: but not that the believer attained his salvific justified acceptance with God due to his own holiness.


104 posted on 10/16/2024 5:29:04 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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