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Can Parents Prevent Their Sons From Sliding to the Right? (Karen alert)
The Cut ^ | February 17, 2024 | Kathryn Jezer-Morton

Posted on 08/09/2024 4:31:11 AM PDT by DoodleBob

… I’ve never been much for the “boy-mom” thing. Beyond the obvious gender-politics ick, it’s part of what I think of as bumper-sticker culture: the labeling and characterizing of every surface of our lives, for, I guess, fun. Very childish behavior. Making my kids’ putative gender identities a badge that I wear alongside my own? Why is this cute? Anyway, I’ve tried to raise my sons in a spirit of loving gender agnosticism if not neutrality, while of course honoring their passion for trucks, the NFL, and bag-tagging each other at every opportunity.

We had a good gentle run, but now my elder son is becoming conversant in such concepts as “sigmas” and “looksmaxxing,” and whatever best intentions my husband Gray and I were working with need to be recalibrated for a new set of much more challenging identity-defining conditions. So it was with great interest that I recently read about a new study indicating that across the Global North, young men and young women are aligning themselves with sharply divergent politics. Women are leaning more progressive, and men more conservative. Not just a little divergence — a big one.

This did not come as a huge surprise to me or Gray. He teaches humanities at a local college, where I have taught too, and we’ve often talked about how tricky it can be to keep hetero boys involved in classroom debates. Many of these young men seem very anxious about saying the wrong thing, and will often refuse to participate, sometimes projecting a provocative kind of defensiveness that is its own argument. As much as I think cancel culture is a fake problem in media, it feels very real to young men when they’re sitting in a classroom. Whatever they are feeling, it feels real as hell. Insisting that they’re imagining their enemies doesn’t help.

After the study came out, there was a lot of speculation as to what might be causing this ideological schism. Is it capitalism? Men’s-rights influencers? Is it the dreaded woke mind virus?

There’s no mystery about why young women are becoming more progressive, but it’s harder to understand the factors behind the increasingly conservative young men. My friend Greg sent me a fascinating piece of analysis by Dr. Robin James, who argues that central to the move toward conservatism among young men is a sense that they’re an aggrieved party — that they are being robbed of entitlements. James explains this in financial terms: In today’s social world, which borrows much of its logic from the free-market economy, success isn’t figured in terms of just doing steady business year after year. It means going viral, experiencing a crazy run of success and earning a windfall. This is true in the realms of art (think superstars who started out making TikToks in their bedrooms), finance (crypto), and consumer culture (Stanley cups).

Applied to people, it maps to feminism and its mirror, misogyny. Feminism feels unfair to these young men because it’s based on the premise that women started from a position of inferiority (many young men find this hard to believe, because they were literally born yesterday) and now get to enjoy the glory of having beaten the odds. For young men to experience the same narrative of success, they feel they need to start from a position of disempowerment. Blaming women for their troubles is an easy route to that position — it’s way easier to explain and understand than, say, the neoliberal dismantling of the public sphere, and the alienating effect that can have on our everyday life.

James writes, “Femininity is figured as resilience, or the ability to flip sexist damage into spectacular success. Popular misogyny is the masculine complement to that: It takes perceived loss of status as an injury and then makes a spectacle out of overcoming that damage through things like podcasts, social media, and rap songs.”

Overcoming obstacles is the most hallowed narrative in our culture — it’s a place where capitalism’s growth imperative dovetails with the progressive appetite for stories about emancipation. So for young men, and straight white men in particular, to feel like valid participants in the storytelling of selfhood, they feel the need to start from a place of grievance, because otherwise there’s no way to bounce back and beat the odds. James cites the gender-studies scholar Michelle Murphy, who has argued that girls’ venerated place in our culture right now is the quintessential example of this mobilization of human capital: “Her rates of return are so high precisely because her value begins so low.” (This argument is the entire basis of the Barbie movie’s success.)

The appeal of a grievance-based identity makes it hard to convince straight white boys that they in fact have plenty going for them, and that they have no reason to feel aggrieved. Doing this convincing, whether it’s in the classroom or at the dinner table, requires a light touch. It’s very easy, and very satisfying, to be doctrinaire — social media encourages and rewards it. I think many of us adults are so entrenched in social-media political discourse that it feels dangerously transgressive to allow a teen to articulate beliefs we disagree with at our dinner tables. When you spend your days reading infographics reminding you that being silent means being on the side of the oppressor, having a flesh-and-blood oppressor-in-training eating your spaghetti and meatballs can feel like a waking nightmare. But coming down too hard risks playing right into the paranoid hands of masculinist discourses of male disempowerment.

My own feeling is that we progressive parents of white sons could ease up. It’s possible to model and enforce ideological ground rules for your family while also allowing young people to bring up their questions and TikTok-based information without fear of a parental freeze-out. For those of us (like me) very firm in our political beliefs, it feels good to stake your position and defend it well. But as adults, we need to figure out a way to help our young people work through confusion without feeling shunned by their own families. This can mean letting reactionary and unformed pseudo-ideologies breathe the same airspace as us while we invite patient conversation. It might feel dangerous to let a teenager argue that sexism works both ways, but it’s far more consequential to make him feel like that position is forbidden. No one should get canceled at the dinner table.

Social media has poached our brains in an incredibly lame way. I suspect that progressive-leaning white parents’ own anxiety about our reputations plays a part in our conversations with our teenage sons, and they can feel it. Teenagers are more attuned to vanity and artifice than any other species, so try to hide your own at your peril. When my voice raises as I start lecturing a teen about why he needs to recognize the importance of the history of Indigenous people rather than simply appropriate all the slang he’s learned from Reservation Dogs? He clocks that, and I wonder what it makes him think. I hope he files it away as something that’s probably true, rather than stacking it alongside a growing pile of reasons why white kids can’t seem to get anything right.

The lesson we owe our teenagers is that our identities are not brands — that as humans, we are capable of much more than that. Ascribing to an identity of grievance is an extremely limiting way to define yourself. It’s like taking on “Nike” or “Supreme” as a personality — kiddie s***. We owe our young people the dignity of a nuanced, three-dimensional set of beliefs, which means we have to let them figure it out in safety. Maybe that means letting them make fun of us a little bit. Maybe it means poking fun at ourselves. Having principles should feel good, not stressful. That’s something we can model for our kids.

Anatomical graffiti is a proud tradition that I am happy to have in my home. But raising teenage boys is likely going to require way more tolerance than this, and I hope I’m ready. My husband and I have tried to raise our sons with softness, and we’ve done well so far. But as they leave my iron dome of maternal influence, my softness has to extend to the parts of themselves that I wouldn’t choose for them. It’s hard work, respectfully debating a tragically underinformed teen about things that we deeply care about. But who said parenting was easy?


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Karen also penned an incredibly bad article on homeschooling.

To be fair, Karen lives in Montreal. But she sounds like everyone on MSNBC.

And they call us “weird.”

1 posted on 08/09/2024 4:31:11 AM PDT by DoodleBob
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To: DoodleBob

Yes...let’s keep taking masculinity away from men. That’s a great answer to completely feminize everyone and then where will we be?


2 posted on 08/09/2024 4:36:44 AM PDT by woweeitsme
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To: DoodleBob

All I can say is, Jezer-Morton!
Waded in, had to withdraw. I’d rather swim in the Seine than read all that.


3 posted on 08/09/2024 4:37:35 AM PDT by Buttons12 (Soap box, jury box, ballot box, cartridge box... Boxcars.)
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To: DoodleBob
Ascribing to an identity of grievance is an extremely limiting way to define yourself.

The projection is strong with this one.

4 posted on 08/09/2024 4:39:39 AM PDT by xp38
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To: Buttons12

Yea, it’s a conundrum.

If I don’t post the whole thing/prompting clicking thru to the article, I’m accused of being a blogpimp.


5 posted on 08/09/2024 4:40:25 AM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: DoodleBob

Ah, The Cut.

The same rag that allowed Meghan Markle to use it to threaten the UK’s royal family...

Nuff said.


6 posted on 08/09/2024 4:46:01 AM PDT by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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To: DoodleBob

“Boys will be boys.”- Normal people.

“Not if we can help it!”-Karen Hyphenated-Nutball and her Beta Cuck husband.

L


7 posted on 08/09/2024 4:52:18 AM PDT by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.p)
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To: DoodleBob

LOL! Good luck with that honey. You will have just as much success convincing your sons not to rebel at all the blame and discrimination heaped upon them, and thus to become Conservative as your Conservative parents had convincing you not to become a Left-tard. Welcome to the human race. It was ever thus.


8 posted on 08/09/2024 4:55:11 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: DoodleBob

I had a hard core leftist aunt and uncle.

They used to call me a Nazi and I used to call them Commies.

In those days we all had a good laugh about it.


9 posted on 08/09/2024 4:57:08 AM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: DoodleBob
SIGMAS and LOOKSMAXXING??? WTF IS THAT??

THIS is ONE WEIRD FAMILY!

10 posted on 08/09/2024 4:58:30 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: mewzilla
From a few months ago. Interesting reading...

Why New York Magazine’s the Cut is expanding at a time when many media companies are cutting costs

11 posted on 08/09/2024 4:58:51 AM PDT by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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To: FLT-bird

Wait until she finds a copy of Ayn Rand’s “The Virtue of Selfishness” lying around the house.

A teenager who reads that knows what to say to parents who start telling them what to think.

“I own my life. I didn’t choose for you to be my parents.”

At that point lefty mom is going to break down and cry.


12 posted on 08/09/2024 5:00:04 AM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: DoodleBob

She also sounds like every leftist mother I’ve ever met. They are completely involved in teaching their (warped ) values to their children. They truly care what their children believe.
The same cannot be said of most conservatives. Most I know are mostly concerned with work and leave teaching their kids to schools. The only different ones are homeschoolers which are a small subset of conservatives. That may be why leftists pick on homeschoolers so much and keep repeating ridiculous myths about them.


13 posted on 08/09/2024 5:00:05 AM PDT by Varda
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To: woweeitsme

Jonathan Cahn addresses the sexual confusion and perversion of our culture. He says that it’s become the liberal narrative of......

Masculinity in males and femininity in females = BAD!

But.....

Masculinity in females and femininity in males = GOOD!


14 posted on 08/09/2024 5:02:59 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus”)
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To: mewzilla

Leftist views are a “luxury” for their wealthy or status seeking want to be wealthy readers.

They show them off like high end purses and shoes.

If times get hard this nonsense stops in a hurry.


15 posted on 08/09/2024 5:04:39 AM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: DoodleBob

Tell your sone that the democrat party is the party of stupid women and weak men. The republican party is the party of normal people of strong women and real men.


16 posted on 08/09/2024 5:09:29 AM PDT by MNnice
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To: MNnice

In my house my mother and father had differing political views and registered in different political parties—and there was no debating at least in front of the kids.

Their attitude about politics for me was very clear.

“You figure it out.”

Lol.


17 posted on 08/09/2024 5:12:40 AM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: DoodleBob

Liberalism, which the author celebrates, requires validation of oneself to come from outside influences.

Conservatism, which is what the author is describing, requires validation of oneself come from honest reflection on one’s own efforts and the results thereof.

The author makes the mistake of analyzing conservatism from a liberal point of view, hence the emphasis on grievance-based identities. She describes young men’s shift to the right as a “slide”, clearly showing that she believes liberalism to be the superior position, and then proceeds to pretend that any rightward movement must be caused by the same forces that are pushing young women leftward.

As I said regarding her anti-homeschool diatribe, there is an extraneous T in her last name.


18 posted on 08/09/2024 5:15:55 AM PDT by MortMan (Charter member of AAAAA - American Association Against Alliteration Abuse)
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To: DoodleBob

“Anatomical graffiti is a proud tradition that I am happy to have in my home”

What does this even mean?


19 posted on 08/09/2024 5:16:17 AM PDT by DeplorablePaul
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To: Varda; Lurker; cgbg; FLT-bird; metmom

A few decades ago, I read an article from a lefty Mom about her attempt at raising her kids with no guns. There were no toy guns, no gun imagery in the home, and she monitored their TV habits. She thought she’d locked everything down (this was before the interweb was ubiquitous).

She came down to breakfast one morning (I guess hubby cooked) and to her alarm, the kids had eaten the toast into the shape of handguns and were “shooting” each other.

I found a contemporary version of this story, seemingly from a lefty Mom, who has more well-adjusted approach vs Karen: https://www.freerangekids.com/i-thought-my-sons-shouldnt-play-with-toy-guns-i-was-wrong/

“My kids have bitten toast into the shape of pistols. Keeping toy guns away from them is a fool’s errand.

“They happen to be history buffs, particularly fascinated with Ancient Rome (swords) and the American Revolution (muskets). Toy wooden muskets have proven to stimulate hours and hours of creative play, which, combined with poring over books about American history, has made for educational and fun activities I could only dream of for them. We also have a pretty good arsenal of neon-colored Nerf guns and Super Soakers.

“The 7 and 11 year old have both enjoyed archery at summer camp, and if they wish to learn target shooting with rifles at appropriate ages, I will not stand in the way. I would much, much rather they enjoyed this sport than get absorbed into hours of first-person-shooter video games before they are old enough to put those in perspective. I would also like them to know how to safely handle any firearms they might encounter out in the world.”


20 posted on 08/09/2024 5:18:53 AM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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