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1 posted on 10/17/2023 7:13:50 AM PDT by Jonty30
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Hebrews?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrews


2 posted on 10/17/2023 7:16:08 AM PDT by left that other site (Romans 8:28)
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To: Jonty30
Genesis 14:13 - "And behold one that had escaped told Abram the Hebrew, who dwelt in the vale of Mambre the Amorrhite, the brother of Escol, and the brother of Aner: for these had made league with Abram.'
4 posted on 10/17/2023 7:18:13 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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The Israelites were 1/3 less calories than the regular Israel.


5 posted on 10/17/2023 7:19:34 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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US Black radicals complete lack of any grasp of history is utterly sick

Arab’s are not black.They are a semetic people just like the Jews.

In fact Arabs had to be forced to stop taking slaves from Africa in the early 20th century by a combination of British and French diplomatic pressure and the British Navy.

https://www.inss.org.il/publication/black-antisemitism/

Beginning in the early 20th century, American Jews had been Blacks’ foremost ally in the struggle for integration and racial justice. This article explores how, when, why, and by whom this alliance was challenged and then sundered, increasingly replaced by Blacks’ strong bond with Arabs, especially Palestinian Arabs, whom they identified as fellow anti-racist people of color.


7 posted on 10/17/2023 7:22:26 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Don't blame me, my congressman is MTG!)
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Hebrew is the earliest known descriptor of Abram in terms of the people he belonged to. Hebrew remained a descriptor of his descendants even after becoming known as Israelites (post-Jacob) and Jews (post-Kingdom of Judah).

So I would go with Hebrew. That remains true regardless of whatever fanciful nonsense radical blacks cook up.


9 posted on 10/17/2023 7:28:33 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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Stele of Merenptah, 1207 B.C., has a line that mentions the nation of “Israel”.


10 posted on 10/17/2023 7:29:01 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 (Don't shoot until you see the whites of their lies)
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radical blacks argue

If they spring that on you, just ask them what THEY were called before 1964.

11 posted on 10/17/2023 7:31:27 AM PDT by fruser1
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Abram was a Chaldean from Ur...................


13 posted on 10/17/2023 7:38:04 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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JEWS!


14 posted on 10/17/2023 7:41:59 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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Ask Desmond Dekker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wSXTN2EfRo


15 posted on 10/17/2023 7:42:41 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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First mentioned of Abram.... a descendant of “Eber.”


19 posted on 10/17/2023 7:55:59 AM PDT by high info voter (Delivery )
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Abraham fathered two sons, Ishmael and Isaac. Ishmael’s descendents are Arabs. Isaac fathered two sons, Jacob and Esau, whose descendents became enemies.


20 posted on 10/17/2023 7:57:01 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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Bkmrk


22 posted on 10/17/2023 8:00:13 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear ("Equity" = "All animals are equal. Some animals are more equal than others.")
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I'm just wondering, because radical blacks argue that they were known as Hebrews, which I don't think is the case.

Even if you accept this statement as fact, you have to ask; which blacks?

All blacks could not possibly be known as Hebrews. Africa being a continent with thousands of tribes with at least hundreds of different languages, many of these tribes thousands of miles away from Israel could not possibly have been even remotely familiar with the word Hebrew.

It is farcical to even consider this statement to be factual to all blacks.

23 posted on 10/17/2023 8:02:02 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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It’s irrelevant

After what Hamas did any nation has a natural right to fight back

It’s nice to know the context of the Middle East and folks here are poorly informed as a rule

But honestly that ship has sailed right now


27 posted on 10/17/2023 8:21:28 AM PDT by wardaddy (Civilization cannot tolerate what the world is becoming )
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Jews were divides into tribes, descended from the sons of Jacob. Those that lived in the northern part of land, called themselves Hebrew, the two tribes in the southern sector were called Jews after Judah. The northern tribes were much less strict about their religion and eventually accepted the culture and religion of the people who governed the area. The Jews to South ( where Israel is today, were much more orthodox.

I looked this up yesterday.


28 posted on 10/17/2023 9:04:18 AM PDT by Eva (…)
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Only Jacob's descendants are Israelites.

Abraham and his descendants were Hebrews because Abraham descended from Eber.

But Eber had other descendants, who are therefore Hebrew, yet not Israelite or Jewish.

And Abraham and Issac also had descendants who are Hebrew, but not Israelite or Jewish.

But in modern usage, the term Hebrew is used to mean ethnically Jewish.

29 posted on 10/17/2023 9:35:04 AM PDT by Angelino97
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The first mention of “Hebrew” I could find in the Bible is in Genesis 14:13, referring to Abram, Abraham’s original name.

Genesis (ESV) 13 Then one who had escaped came and told Abram the Hebrew, who was living by the oaks of Mamre the Amorite, brother of Eshcol and of Aner. These were allies of Abram.


31 posted on 10/17/2023 9:45:36 AM PDT by keats5
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Wandering Nabateans/Amorites were somewhere in the genealogy.


32 posted on 10/17/2023 9:50:27 AM PDT by x
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