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To: lyby

I’ll elaborate, owe you kindness and intend no insult toward you...

My “long live the queen” was a double entendre, one pointing to the stupid resident and the other pointing to the notion that differing opinions should be censored by a pseudo-monarch of any stylish modeling.

My perspective is that whether one poster likes one source, or dislikes another, or one subject is liked and another is not, or one slide topic is good and others are deemed bad, the site should not engage is censorship, other than when a liability to the forum owners is a threat, or at the OWNERS discretion alone.

Free exchange of ideas, even those we don’t agree with make us stronger, because we even learn from those in error, which helps us develop better communication with each other and enables us to understand and rationally confront deception, propaganda, brainwashing and outright lies.

Censorship is what the left does and did to us all for the last three years, yet is creeping in. This is what I am standing against in my comments.

My dislike for GP (and other sources) is merely my personal opinion (thigh GP was disliked for quite some time as expressed by other posters), yet I don’t ask that posters be banished to festival basement.

The solution to free speech we don’t like is more free speech, not censorship, lest we behave like the leftist carjacking media and left leaning social media. We’re better than this and should not fear opinions which differ from ours and we should never censor them. If those opinions are false, let the truth shine the light upon the darkness. But let’s not pretend differing opinions don’t exist by hiding them. To do this ultimately weakens each of us.

To censor unfavorable opinions in an open conservative forum is akin to conservatives being silenced on college free speech zone...yet worse, because we love the 1st amendment are are not and should not be afraid of it, even when we disagree with another.

Nothing personal toward you.

My comment was a spin on the resident’s comment.


1,473 posted on 06/20/2023 1:25:33 PM PDT by SheepWhisperer (Get involved wth, or start a home fellowship group. It will be the final church. ACTS 2:42-47)
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To: SheepWhisperer

My dislike for GP (and other sources) is merely my personal opinion

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ThanQ for your response to my question.

Although your answer was more toward addressing the contentions on this thread regarding “free speech,” you did answer my question as to why you think TGP is “horrible.” One’s personal opinion is indeed just that, and I will be respectful, but frankly I was expecting/hoping for examples for consideration related to your perceived horribleness of TGP.


1,500 posted on 06/20/2023 2:35:00 PM PDT by lyby ("Mathematics is the language with which God has written the universe." ~ Galileo Galilei)
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To: SheepWhisperer; ransomnote

Subtle, SW, subtle. We all know what you meant. There was no censoring, only an asking to take 107 to festival. Why is that a problem? RN’s asking was met with sarcasm, whining, more lying, and a temper tantrum.

Are we in junior high here? Start your own list if you don’t like this one. You seem really unhappy here.

In fact, I’m going to propose to RN that she not make a new thread. Frexit. You and your friends can be in control of this one.

There is no exchange of free ideas when people are called names, even when whispered. “Long live the queen”, your double entendre (oooh good one SW!!) was not meant for Biden, it was meant for RN. The other insult was “sheepherder” like that’s a bad thing. Christ is our shepherd. So, maybe the person who called RN a sheepherder was actually not insulting but complimenting RN. However, I doubt it.

Again there was no censoring, just an “ask” to take 107 to festival. But y’all responded like RN asked you to bow before Baal or something. The only thing you are standing for is your own ego.

This isn’t GAB, there really isn’t free speech on FR. If you and your friends (please talk amongst yourselves, you tire me) don’t like that then leave. Don’t let the door hit your bums on the way out. You all aren’t interested in a free exhange of ideas, only temper tantrums and veiled insults.

True free speech, which is on GAB, not on FR, is where you can say racial slurs, curse words, and outright threaten people. But here, there is a modicum of decorum. And I don’t think that means, when you walk down the junior high hallway, you poke a stick up their bum or follow them with taunts.

You are only fooling yourself if you think FR is bastion of free speech. It’s not. We agreed to that when we all signed up for an account.

Here are the rules posted at the beginning of every thread... I’ll repost them for you, in case you have forgotten.

“Reminder: No profanity, no personal attacks, no violence.

You agreed to this when you signed up for posting privileges.

This means leave off the the cussing and swear words. No f-bombs. No c-words, no sh-words, etc. Not even masked. If in a headline or article you’re preparing to post, bleep it out.

Do not tale the Lord’s name in vain.

Use common courtesy when posting. Do not post insults or personal attacks against your fellow FReepers. Do not engage in flamewars or feuds. If you find yourself falling into one, disengage immediately and move on. You don’t need to have the last word. Do not badger other posters. Do not demand an answer. If someone says stop, stop.

Do not enter onto a thread on a topic you don’t like just to disrupt, rattle cages, poke sticks, insult the regulars, or engage in trolling activities, etc.

Do not attempt to discover or expose a poster’s real life identity.

Do not post threats, threats of violence, death wishes, etc., not even hints of ill will, not even jokingly.

The FBI has no sense of humor.

I hate it when the FBI knocks on my door or serves me a subpoena. Please spare me and maybe yourself from this very unpleasant experience.”

Let’s see.. no personal attacks. Check, I think that was done by you and your friends. Do not post insults or personal attacks. Check, that was done as well. Don’t engage in flame wars or feuds. Check.. that was done! Don’t insult the regulars. Also check and done.

I think you and yours want this list shut down.

And I take leave with Psalms 10...
10 Why standest thou afar off, O Lord? why hidest thou thyself in times of trouble?

2 The wicked in his pride doth persecute the poor: let them be taken in the devices that they have imagined.

3 For the wicked boasteth of his heart’s desire, and blesseth the covetous, whom the Lord abhorreth.

4 The wicked, through the pride of his countenance, will not seek after God: God is not in all his thoughts.

5 His ways are always grievous; thy judgments are far above out of his sight: as for all his enemies, he puffeth at them.

6 He hath said in his heart, I shall not be moved: for I shall never be in adversity.

7 His mouth is full of cursing and deceit and fraud: under his tongue is mischief and vanity.

8 He sitteth in the lurking places of the villages: in the secret places doth he murder the innocent: his eyes are privily set against the poor.

9 He lieth in wait secretly as a lion in his den: he lieth in wait to catch the poor: he doth catch the poor, when he draweth him into his net.

10 He croucheth, and humbleth himself, that the poor may fall by his strong ones.

11 He hath said in his heart, God hath forgotten: he hideth his face; he will never see it.

12 Arise, O Lord; O God, lift up thine hand: forget not the humble.

13 Wherefore doth the wicked contemn God? he hath said in his heart, Thou wilt not require it.

14 Thou hast seen it; for thou beholdest mischief and spite, to requite it with thy hand: the poor committeth himself unto thee; thou art the helper of the fatherless.

15 Break thou the arm of the wicked and the evil man: seek out his wickedness till thou find none.

16 The Lord is King for ever and ever: the heathen are perished out of his land.

17 Lord, thou hast heard the desire of the humble: thou wilt prepare their heart, thou wilt cause thine ear to hear:

18 To judge the fatherless and the oppressed, that the man of the earth may no more oppress.


1,557 posted on 06/20/2023 6:55:13 PM PDT by peteypupperdoo (Petey Pupperdoo - "We, the people, are the cure." (Q post #3724))
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