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1 posted on 05/22/2023 10:43:55 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
“The Plato Code”

Dan Brown's next novel.

2 posted on 05/22/2023 10:45:24 AM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: nickcarraway

Yes, surprisingly it turns out that Plato’s republic is the original source for “Itsy-Bitsy Teeny-Weenie Yellow Polka Dot Bikini”.

In Db.


3 posted on 05/22/2023 10:48:35 AM PDT by _longranger81
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To: nickcarraway

“The decoded messages also open up a surprising way to unite science and religion.”

Okay, what did the decoded messages say?


4 posted on 05/22/2023 10:51:10 AM PDT by odawg
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To: nickcarraway

“The hidden codes show that Plato anticipated the scientific revolution 2,000 years before Isaac Newton, discovering its most important idea—that the book of nature is written in the language of mathematics.”

Mathematically, I think this article can be modeled using the equation for a hyperbola.


5 posted on 05/22/2023 10:52:36 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy (;-,)
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To: nickcarraway

Oration was how ideas were presented. Organizing words to include musical scales would help enable subsequent orators to get the speeches right, not just the words.


10 posted on 05/22/2023 10:54:58 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: nickcarraway

Unlikely there was an original code there.

Keep in mind that we only have copies of copies of copies of Plato’s original works. The first full manuscript of the Republic stems from around 1500 years after Plato’s death. And copying manuscripts always entailed a certain degree of error.

I’m skeptical.
Sometimes we can see what we want.


19 posted on 05/22/2023 11:26:29 AM PDT by Blennos
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To: nickcarraway

Whatever math classical Greece had was first used by Old Kingdom Egyptians, including geometry and trigonometry. The Greeks learned it all from years of study with Egyptian priests and brought that knowledge back to Greece. Pythagoras and other Greek mathematicians just converted that knowledge into something they could understand, for instance the Old Kingdom’s “the tiny gap” became the Comma of Pythagoras.

Further, the Old Kingdom Egyptians 4,500 years ago counted, like modern computers, without multiplication tables and whose accuracy was not surpassed until computers were invented.


20 posted on 05/22/2023 11:45:03 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: nickcarraway

Academics often see what they want to see. I wonder if the first notes were, DA DA DA, DA DUH DADA, DA DA DUH, DA DA? Or maybe Jimmy Page intro to Stairway to Heaven? Or it could have the bass intro to These Boots are Made for Walking?


21 posted on 05/22/2023 11:50:03 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (USA Birth Certificate - 1787. Death Certificate - 2021? )
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To: Phinneous; SJackson; golux; MadMax, the Grinning Reaper; yelostar

"It's a musical code," says Kennedy. "Plato and the Greeks believed music was the key to mathematics and the cosmos. What we didn't know was that he used Greek musical scales to give his works a hidden structure and then built layers of hidden meanings beneath that."

Great. Happy Chanukah:

חי

🔥
1 2 3 4 | 5 6 7 8

19 + 188
=
207
=
אור
(LIGHT)

(The center candle is the "shamash" [שמש] helper candle that also spells shemesh, "Sun".)

do (re mi fa) 🔥 (sol la si) do

reading right to left:

דו (רה מי פה) 🔥 (סול לה סי) דו

דו (רה מי פה סול לה סי) דו
10 (70 + 35 + 96 + 85 + 50 + 205) 10

י (541) י

י (ישראל) י

יי
(70 + 35 + 96) (85 + 50 + 205)

(201) (340)
שם רא

ראשם
(their head/chief/leader)

Let's start at the very beginning:

"Do-re-mi-fa-so and so on are only the tools we use to build a song. Once you have them in your heads you can sing a million different tunes, by mixing them up. Like this.."

Always interesting that the clip begins with "Esther", aka Ayelet haShachar, the Doh of the Dawn:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jp0opnxQ4rY

"The result was amazing—it was like opening a tomb and finding new set of gospels written by Jesus Christ himself," he concluded.

Nothing new here:

י (ישראל) י

Exodus 30

11. And the Lord spoke to Moses, saying:
12. When you take the census of the people of Israel according to their number, then shall they give every man a ransom for his soul to the Lord, when you count them; that there should be no plague among them, when you count them:
13. This they shall give, every one who passes among those who are counted, half a shekel according to the shekel of the sanctuary; a shekel is twenty gerahs; a half shekel shall be the offering of the Lord:
14. Every one who passes among those who are counted, from twenty years old and above, shall give an offering to the Lord:
15. The rich shall not give more, and the poor shall not give less than half a shekel, when they give an offering to the Lord, to make an atonement for your souls:
16. And you shall take the atonement money of the people of Israel, and shall appoint it for the service of the Tent of Meeting; that it may be a memorial to the people of Israel before the Lord, to make an atonement for your souls:

Half-Shekel – Metaphor for Entanglement

Looks like they are connected:

Hanukkah and Purim – Turning the World Upside Down and Putting it back Right-side Up

22 posted on 05/22/2023 12:57:52 PM PDT by Ezekiel (🆘️ "Come fly with US". Ingenuity -- because the Son of David begins with Mars ♂️, aka every man)
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To: nickcarraway

He had the code on Pluto


23 posted on 05/22/2023 1:07:34 PM PDT by Fledermaus (It's time to get rid of the Three McStooges; Mitch, Kevin and Ronna!)
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To: nickcarraway
https://www.ancient-origins.net/news-history-archaeology/plato-and-his-hidden-music-code-00427 (May 2013)

Plato was a Pythagorean and as a Pythagorean he was familiar with numerology and music theory and harmony. Mathematics and harmony are interconnected. Therefore in the works of Plato there is the assumption that some type of a music code was embedded. 

Jay Kennedy of the University of Manchester has done an extensive research into Plato and Pythagoras and now Kennedy suggests that he found a way to crack the code that Plato has used. He believes that the pattern that Plato used corresponds to the twelve note musical scale and is all over his texts.

https://williamzeitler.com/media/MusicalGematria.pdf March 2012

from page 22 of his paper, Musical Gematria, by William Zeitler:

The concept behind this diagram is hardly new. Plato himself said much the same thing:

“Every [geometric] diagram, and system of number, and every combination of harmony, and the agreement of the revolution of the stars must be manifest as One through All to him who learns in the proper way. And [they] will disclose themselves if, as we say, a man learns aright by keeping his gaze on Unity; for it will be manifest to us, as we reflect, that there is one bond naturally uniting all these things.”
– Plato, Epinomis28 [emphasis added]

26 posted on 05/22/2023 1:45:03 PM PDT by yelostar (AI takeover: another phony problem created to coerce the citizen into surrendering his freedom.)
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To: nickcarraway

The songs title: In a gadda da vida, honey


27 posted on 05/22/2023 2:04:24 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: nickcarraway

What a vain and idiotic article about an idiotic and vain self-identified researcher of Plato’s writings.
I am not saying there is nothing there; but Pythagoras did not discover that theorem which bears his name. And the analogy to finding a Gospel penned by Jesus? Well, someone was paying attention in the hype-marketing class.


30 posted on 05/22/2023 2:54:01 PM PDT by Honest Nigerian
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To: nickcarraway

Socrates also proposes that there should be no separate families among the members of the guardian class: the guardians will possess all the women and children in common (457c-d). Socrates proceeds to discuss how this measure is for the best and Glaucon allows him to skip discussing its feasibility (458a-c). The best guardian men are to have sex with the best guardian women to produce offspring of a similar nature (458d-459d). Socrates describes the system of eugenics in more detail. In order to guarantee that the best guardian men have sex with the best guardian women, the city will have marriage festivals supported by a rigged lottery system (459e-460a). The best guardian men will also be allowed to have sex with as many women as they desire in order to increase the likelihood of giving birth to children with similar natures (460a-b). Once born, the children will be taken away to a rearing pen to be taken care of by nurses and the parents will not be allowed to know who their own children are (460c-d). This is so that the parents think of all the children as their own. Socrates recognizes that this system will result in members of the same family having intercourse with each other (461c-e).


32 posted on 05/22/2023 5:43:32 PM PDT by jroehl (And how we burned in the camps later - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn - The Gulag Archipelago)
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